Billfold100 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I don't think it has much to do with Tallon. I'm guessing that just about any GM was going to send Horton packing. He's a classic example of the guy who needs a change of scenery, as bunomatic said. I think that is as much of an indictment as anything. He's 25 and needs a change of scenery? I don't buy it. This is the same guy who walked out on the panthers sponsor golf outing as a rookie b/c he was mad he didn't get the day off. F him. A year from now this guy would getting slaughtered on this board had we traded for him. The last thing our locker room needs is another young, overpaid player who is above giving a sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 We don't put much stock in Stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 We don't put much stock in Stock. Ya, they didn't say his name until after he made his comments as a confirmation. Once I heard who it was I automatically knew it was BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Looks like the "source" at 990 in Toronto is a guy that they fired months ago and has a history of prank trade calls. No mention of it from any of the more reliable media sources. I'm calling it bunk. Didn't he do this last off season with Kaberle as part of the Kessel deal? I'm digging through 990's archives now to find that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think that is as much of an indictment as anything. He's 25 and needs a change of scenery? I don't buy it. This is the same guy who walked out on the panthers sponsor golf outing as a rookie b/c he was mad he didn't get the day off. F him. A year from now this guy would getting slaughtered on this board had we traded for him. The last thing our locker room needs is another young, overpaid player who is above giving a sh*t. Professional sports history is full of guys who fit that label. Some actually turn it around and make something of it, like say Danny Briere. Others continue down their path to obscurity (Chris Gratton). So yeah, it doesn't mean he'll suddenly become a player, but I won't ignore the possibility. But yes, I agree with you that this isn't the kind of guy we should be adding right now. I don't think he'd thrive with us, but I do think that right is out there somewhere. Will it be Boston? We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Nothing on TSN, or from McKenzie, Dreger or Lebrun on Twitter PJ says done... maybe he's right, although I doubt it. But I wouldn't be surprised to see something done between them in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Didn't he do this last off season with Kaberle as part of the Kessel deal? I'm digging through 990's archives now to find that one. Wasn't there a deal that was "in place" with Kessel and Kaberle, but Burke didn't realize that the Bruins still thought that the Leafs' first-round pick was also part of the deal. Once he realized that, he said no. At least, that's how my vague memory goes; could be off a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wasn't there a deal that was "in place" with Kessel and Kaberle, but Burke didn't realize that the Bruins still thought that the Leafs' first-round pick was also part of the deal. Once he realized that, he said no. At least, that's how my vague memory goes; could be off a bit. That's about right. The whole thing made no sense though. What Boston supposedly thought they were getting in that deal was beyond highway robbery. It was essentially what they wound up getting for Kessel, but also including Kaberle, without actually sending anything else back to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Just FYI, the whole Kaberle deal may be done, maybe not, but they can't go doing anything about it or announcing anything until Kaberle's NTC "window" opens up. That's not until draft day and then through Aug 15th. I don't think Burke deals with Boston. He's still walking funny from the Kessel trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Just FYI, the whole Kaberle deal may be done, maybe not, but they can't go doing anything about it or announcing anything until Kaberle's NTC "window" opens up. That's not until draft day and then through Aug 15th. Unless he waives it. If he knows that he's going to be dealt on Friday anyway, he may be willing to waive it early just to get it done, especially if he likes the Bruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 There is nothing on the NHL network so obviously the Kaberle rumor is B.S. However all these rumors and activity by Boston have got to make Darcy nervous. His stated goal is to make the team better each year. Last year it was to make the playoffs - he did that, but he also finished 1st in the division. He can't step down from there, so I'm thinking he knows he'll have to make some significant moves to match those of Boston. I realize patience is a virtue, and Darcy has more than enough of that. But activity shows the fans that you care and that you're trying. Although that means you can step in poop (read Torres), at the same time you have to take the risk if you are going to meet your stated goal. So I expect him to be more active this summer than he has in the past. Personally I'd like to see him pick up Fleischmann. I think he's ready to pop into a top scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Byfuglien, Sopel, Eager and Akim Aliu to Atlanta for 24th overall pick, 54th overall pick, Marty Reasoner and Jeremy Morin. WOW. 5.3 of cap gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Byfuglien, Sopel, Eager to Atlanta for first round pick (New Jersey's), 2nd round pick (new jersey's), Reasoner and Jeremy Morin. WOW. 5.3 of cap gone. Holy sh*t, now THAT is a trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I should say confirmed with TSn that it's pending NHL approval. I don't see why it wouldn't go through. Atlanta has tons of space. $34 million actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 So, Byfuglien, a 4th (maybe 3rd) line winger, a third-pairing defenseman and a decent prospect for ... A late first round pick, late second round pick, a third line center and a meh prosepect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 So, Byfuglien, a 4th (maybe 3rd) line winger, a third-pairing defenseman and a decent prospect for ... A late first round pick, late second round pick, a third line center and a meh prosepect. Good for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Byfuglien, Sopel, Eager and Akim Aliu to Atlanta for 24th overall pick, 54th overall pick, Marty Reasoner and Jeremy Morin. WOW. 5.3 of cap gone. Great trade for Chicago in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 They did really well on those picks. Byfuglien's post season must have done enough to get that return. It's a shame they had to take back a piece of garbage like Reasoner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 The Chicago trade is interesting. I'm surprised they chose to unload Byfuglien and not Versteeg -- although it's likely Atlanta insisted on Byfuglien as part of the deal for taking on Sopel, who is well overpaid. Still, Byfuglien was a huge part of that playoff run. It seemed to me in watching them that his powerful physical presence helped give Chicago its swagger. I think this means Chicago has dumped all of the assets it needs to in order to get under the cap, as long as they send Huet down to the minors (or find someone to take his contract). Au revoir, Patrick Sharp. I wouldn't have minded seeing the Sabres trade their 1st and 2nd rounders for Byfuglien, Sopel and Eager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 The Chicago trade is interesting. I'm surprised they chose to unload Byfuglien and not Versteeg -- although it's likely Atlanta insisted on Byfuglien as part of the deal for taking on Sopel, who is well overpaid. Still, Byfuglien was a huge part of that playoff run. It seemed to me in watching them that his powerful physical presence helped give Chicago its swagger. I think this means Chicago has dumped all of the assets it needs to in order to get under the cap, as long as they send Huet down to the minors (or find someone to take his contract). Au revoir, Patrick Sharp. I wouldn't have minded seeing the Sabres trade their 1st and 2nd rounders for Byfuglien, Sopel and Eager. I'm glad you posted this so I can just strongly agree with it. That way TW won't get his panites bunched saying I am just trying to attack Regier. That is the exact type of move that Buffalo should have been involved in. Make a impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 AND THE OPTIONS FOR REGIER JUST KEEP GETTING SMALLER and smaller..........and smaller........and smaller DO YOU FEEL THE CAGE OF UNEMPLOYMENT MOVING IN DARCY? GOD, AS A SABRES FAN I CAN ONLY PRAY SO. ENOUGH OF YOUR FAILURES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 That is the exact type of move that Buffalo should have been involved in. Make a impact. Maybe he's saving those picks for something bigger!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm glad you posted this so I can just strongly agree with it. That way TW won't get his panites bunched saying I am just trying to attack Regier. That is the exact type of move that Buffalo should have been involved in. Make a impact. agreed on all accounts. That would be a great start to the weekend. Bring on the DR apologists please tell me he's waiting for this weekend. PA there's a Ruff conspiracy in here if you look hard enough, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Maybe he's saving those picks for something bigger!! ;) carpandean, please don't get my hopes up. Please tell me you have some thoughts on the center, RW and PPQB positions that are still plausible. I have very little to absolutely zero faith left that something will get done. I, as you well know, am not so concerned with the PPQB position as I am a supporter of Gragnani. But the Center and RW positions for line 1 I am sincerely concerned. Tell me Staal, Richards (both of them), or some serious center is being considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 carpandean, please don't get my hopes up. Please tell me you have some thoughts on the center, RW and PPQB positions that are still plausible. I have very little to absolutely zero faith left that something will get done. I, as you well know, am not so concerned with the PPQB position as I am a supporter of Gragnani. But the Center and RW positions for line 1 I am sincerely concerned. Tell me Staal, Richards (both of them), or some serious center is being considered. Unfortunately, if Dallas trades a center, it will probably be Ribeiro, not Richards. Can you imagine Ribeiro/Roy as our #1/#2?! We might not win a Cup, but we'd be a shoo in for an Oscar ... or maybe a gold medal in diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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