Hank Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyone watch it? Care to discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyone watch it? Care to discuss? Watching it now. (Wasn't going to skip the Sabres game to watch it.) Having as much trouble staying awake as Harry Reid was having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Ahhh.......I Didn't have that issue, AT&T U-Verse don't offer center ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Watching it now. (Wasn't going to skip the Sabres game to watch it.) Having as much trouble staying awake as Harry Reid was having. I missed it (or did I not miss anything???) Was it a cure for insomnia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I missed it (or did I not miss anything???) Was it a cure for insomnia? ummmm...nooo. Personally, I found the majority of it to be inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I watched it and found it very interesting. I'm still a young guy, so I can really only compare it to the ones of the Bush administration, but my opinion was that the President did a good job of touching on all the critical points and balancing his positives with his negatives. It left me feeling that the speech was rather genuine and overall optimistic. I will attest to being extremely moderate. I agree with both Conservative and Liberal sides on certain things. What impressed me the most tonight was the surprising amount of unanimous applause from both sides. I don't think I've ever seen a State of the Union speech where both parties supported a President so much. Obviously the true test of Obama's goals will come over the years of his term(s), but I think his message was positive but realistic. It wasn't overly fantastical but not completely negative. He didn't throw around tons of catch words, he just spoke in a way that most Americans can understand. Now it's time to kick back and see if he can really get both sides to work together on these big issues so that we really can get this country moving back in the right direction. I don't think anyone can disagree that we hope he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyone have an opinion on Obama's promise to allow openly gay people in thew military? My initial reaction is I don't care as long as they are competant. Than there's a small part of me thats conflicted about it.... What do you think Doog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I watched it and found it very interesting. I'm still a young guy, so I can really only compare it to the ones of the Bush administration, but my opinion was that the President did a good job of touching on all the critical points and balancing his positives with his negatives. It left me feeling that the speech was rather genuine and overall optimistic. I will attest to being extremely moderate. I agree with both Conservative and Liberal sides on certain things. What impressed me the most tonight was the surprising amount of unanimous applause from both sides. I don't think I've ever seen a State of the Union speech where both parties supported a President so much. Obviously the true test of Obama's goals will come over the years of his term(s), but I think his message was positive but realistic. It wasn't overly fantastical but not completely negative. He didn't throw around tons of catch words, he just spoke in a way that most Americans can understand. Now it's time to kick back and see if he can really get both sides to work together on these big issues so that we really can get this country moving back in the right direction. I don't think anyone can disagree that we hope he can. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I missed it (or did I not miss anything???) Was it a cure for insomnia? It was well spoken and intelligent. Then again so is Bert and Ernie compared to the most recent ex-President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyone have an opinion on Obama's promise to allow openly gay people in thew military? My initial reaction is I don't care as long as they are competant. Than there's a small part of me thats conflicted about it.... What do you think Doog? What is there to be conflicted about? We need to erase the religious based fear that somehow ###### men and women are evil. The same people that want to tell you that homosexuals are destroying this country are the same that said blacks are evil and will destroy the country when they take over. It is the basis of organized religion and the republican party, they sell three things, fear, fear and fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I watched it and found it very interesting. I'm still a young guy, so I can really only compare it to the ones of the Bush administration, but my opinion was that the President did a good job of touching on all the critical points and balancing his positives with his negatives. It left me feeling that the speech was rather genuine and overall optimistic. I will attest to being extremely moderate. I agree with both Conservative and Liberal sides on certain things. What impressed me the most tonight was the surprising amount of unanimous applause from both sides. I don't think I've ever seen a State of the Union speech where both parties supported a President so much. Obviously the true test of Obama's goals will come over the years of his term(s), but I think his message was positive but realistic. It wasn't overly fantastical but not completely negative. He didn't throw around tons of catch words, he just spoke in a way that most Americans can understand. Now it's time to kick back and see if he can really get both sides to work together on these big issues so that we really can get this country moving back in the right direction. I don't think anyone can disagree that we hope he can. Obama espoused his usual crap. All hat and no cattle! Again. Anybody sucked in by his rhetoric is just fooled one more time. His calls for being open and to practise fiscal responsibility are fodder for Jon Stewart. What a POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It was well spoken and intelligent. Then again so is Bert and Ernie compared to the most recent ex-President. It was, for the most part, just talk. I certainly didn't agree all of the time with the "most recent ex-president" but this guy Obama can't even carry W's lunchbox. Obama wants to "fundamentally change this country" to his socialistic ideal. I know, his stimulus "saved a lot of jobs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It was, for the most part, just talk. I certainly didn't agree all of the time with the "most recent ex-president" but this guy Obama can't even carry W's lunchbox. Obama wants to "fundamentally change this country" to his socialistic ideal. I know, his stimulus "saved a lot of jobs". I might not agree with Obama but are you kidding? Do I need to list all of Bush's wonderful "accomplishments"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ...but this guy Obama can't even carry W's lunchbox. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I watched it and found it very interesting. I'm still a young guy, so I can really only compare it to the ones of the Bush administration, but my opinion was that the President did a good job of touching on all the critical points and balancing his positives with his negatives. It left me feeling that the speech was rather genuine and overall optimistic. I will attest to being extremely moderate. I agree with both Conservative and Liberal sides on certain things. What impressed me the most tonight was the surprising amount of unanimous applause from both sides. I don't think I've ever seen a State of the Union speech where both parties supported a President so much. Obviously the true test of Obama's goals will come over the years of his term(s), but I think his message was positive but realistic. It wasn't overly fantastical but not completely negative. He didn't throw around tons of catch words, he just spoke in a way that most Americans can understand. Now it's time to kick back and see if he can really get both sides to work together on these big issues so that we really can get this country moving back in the right direction. I don't think anyone can disagree that we hope he can. When the Pres says something the Congresscritters think the American people want to hear, they stand and applaud. Been going on that way for a long time. Was quite surprised to hear him state that the troops would be out of Iraq sometime in August. The address was crafted to sound like he plans on moving to the center; most if not all of his campaign rhetoric sounded the same way. It'll be interesting to see if his actions follow the rhetoric. Not overly impressed with his "spending freeze." Especially when he takes the majority of the budget items off the table in regards to the freeze, comes up w/ the freeze after adding well over $1 trillion to the budget, and then finds $20 billion in cuts. The man doesn't seem to have too high an opinion of the average American's intelligence. Would have been much more impressed had he said that the unspent stimulus money would remain unspent and used to reduce the deficit & debt. My favorite part of the speech was when he said to effect (sorry, can't recall the exact words and I'm not going to scroll back through and rewatch to find them) that he wants America to have the government it deserves. Unfortunately, I think we are already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It was, for the most part, just talk. I certainly didn't agree all of the time with the "most recent ex-president" but this guy Obama can't even carry W's lunchbox. Obama wants to "fundamentally change this country" to his socialistic ideal. I know, his stimulus "saved a lot of jobs". :rolleyes: Alibi up front, I voted for him.. I find it rather amusing that he wants to freeze government discretionary spending after he bought all those picnic tables.. The Stimulus was/is the single biggest discretionary dole out in my life time. He wants to save 300 billion after giving away 787 billion.. Must be that new math.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Wings Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'll first preface that I'm not a fan of the political scene. I don't talk politics because I think most politicians are in this for themselves and don't have the first clue about what the American people want. I'd rather watch a "Moment of Truth" marathon on Lifetime than argue about what a particular senator believes in. When I watch the State of the Union, I try to listen to what the President is saying and what he wants to try to accomplish. The ovations are a joke, since we only see half of the chamber do so (Taro said it right - "When the Pres says something the Congresscritters think the American people want to hear, they stand and applaud"). The Republican/Democratic "response" is even more of a joke, because as the UNITED States, we can't even support our own leader because he's from a different political party. Obama even said that our sense of unity has pretty much dissipated since 9/11. I only watched the speech from the moment the shootout was over until my eyes convinced me it was time to fall asleep 30 minutes later, but I thought Obama touched on a number of points that grab the attention of the typical middle class American. I do think he has a better feel of what "the people" want than GWB and truly wants to get things back on track with the economy and jobs. I thought it was a little immature (for lack of a better word) to say that the economic problems weren't the fault of his administration, but he does seem genuinely motivated to fix them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 What is there to be conflicted about? We need to erase the religious based fear that somehow ###### men and women are evil. Is our lovely new Automated-Language-Filter actually censoring the word "g-a-y"? Wow, who knew computers could be bigoted too! Why hasn't ALF been taken out to pasture yet? Do we seriously need this?:blink: ALFmustgo.com, coming February 14th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 gay nope makes it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFanInRochester Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Obama is a smooth-talking wanna-be. He is all talk, just like a typical politician. Well, he's not all talk, he will turn around and turn the US into a socialist state, but that is different from what he says, so maybe liar is the better word. POS If what he said had actual meaning other than sounding good, I would be optimistic. Read the AP's fact checks on his speech. The guy will say anything. http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=democratandchronicle&sParam=32649085.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 What is there to be conflicted about? We need to erase the religious based fear that somehow ###### men and women are evil. The same people that want to tell you that homosexuals are destroying this country are the same that said blacks are evil and will destroy the country when they take over. It is the basis of organized religion and the republican party, they sell three things, fear, fear and fear. Obama espoused his usual crap. All hat and no cattle! Again. Anybody sucked in by his rhetoric is just fooled one more time. His calls for being open and to practise fiscal responsibility are fodder for Jon Stewart. What a POS. Response. (I tried to embed the video, but once again I am unable to do so. As much as I'd like to blame the new skin, I think it's me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I've seen too manyt of these to bother commenting on the specifics of the speech. It's a joke. Men and women who excoriate each other in the media shake hands and slap backs and even smile at the president's comments. The standing ovations are hilarious. Each reference is put into the speech to appease one member or another. "And no longer in the Bible Belt should a teenage girl be allowed to lick her ice cream cone around the outside, only up and down!" And Charles Grassley stands. It's a game, nothing more. Our media is nothing more than Kevin and Mike. And the American people lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Read the AP's fact checks on his speech. Yeah, that seems credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm still a young guy, so I can really only compare it to the ones of the Bush administration I don't think I've ever seen a State of the Union speech where both parties supported a President so much. I think you answered your own question there. Wait, that wasn't a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Obama espoused his usual crap. All hat and no cattle! Again. Anybody sucked in by his rhetoric is just fooled one more time. His calls for being open and to practise fiscal responsibility are fodder for Jon Stewart. What a POS. Do you have anything legitimate to contribute to the discussion, Hannity, or are you just going to whine? It was, for the most part, just talk. I certainly didn't agree all of the time with the "most recent ex-president" but this guy Obama can't even carry W's lunchbox. Obama wants to "fundamentally change this country" to his socialistic ideal. I know, his stimulus "saved a lot of jobs". See above. Obama is a smooth-talking wanna-be. He is all talk, just like a typical politician. Well, he's not all talk, he will turn around and turn the US into a socialist state, but that is different from what he says, so maybe liar is the better word. POS If what he said had actual meaning other than sounding good, I would be optimistic. Read the AP's fact checks on his speech. The guy will say anything. http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=democratandchronicle&sParam=32649085.story A socialist state? Seriously, where do you people get this stuff? Yeah, Obama is going to make a socialist state and Bush was der Führer. Can we drop the silly bulls*it already? And also, I believe it's worth noting that the news media could be the worst possible outlet for...well...news. The article you posted did it's job; it supported how you viewed the speech. However, there are things wrong with that article, as there are with most news reports. I find http://www.factcheck.org/ to be much more neutral and reliable when it comes to backing its claims with factual proof, and I'm looking forward to their review of the State of the Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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