Three headed goalie monster coming to an end?

[inkman]

9 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

it feels like they've soured on Levi... wouldn't be surprised if he's moved and Ellis is sent down to take his spot.

Kevyn is too much of a dolt to form an opinion that matters.  The reason Levi is in the AHL is because he can be. Adams doesn’t have the brain power to understand that Devon might be their best goalie not to mention Adams isn’t smart enough to promote Levi and make the requisite roster moves to accommodate the transaction. 

[PerreaultForever]

15 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

it feels like they've soured on Levi... wouldn't be surprised if he's moved and Ellis is sent down to take his spot.

Ellis will not clear.

[PerreaultForever]

6 minutes ago, inkman said:

No ceiling means he could be the best athlete of all time 

lol, yes, I guess you could read it that way. I think you know I meant he is not going to be any better than he's already been. Ellis to me could be a Joey Daccord type. Late bloomer.  

[quill]

I don't think UPL is clearly the #1 moving forward. He seems to have some of his best spurts, past and present, whenever he senses some new competition for him coming into the picture. Overall, though, he sometimes looks good, once in a brief while he looks very good, he never looks great. And often he doesn't look good at all. In a 3 goalie situation on a perpetual loser like we've been, if they can't figure out who is the best, who is the worst, or who is in between, then they might as well take the easy way out and make it about the money by picking the cheapest one to be the #1 for now. 

[Pimlach]

10 hours ago, pi2000 said:

League wide rankings since Nov 1st for goalies who have played at least 185 mins (66 goalies)....

UPL (416 min)
Sv% 21st
GAA 18th
HighDanger SV% 36th
MediumDanger SV% 15th
LowDanger SV% 13th
Goals Saved Above Expected/60 21st

Ellis (303 min)
Sv% 39th
GAA 52nd
High Danger SV% 58th
MediumDanger SV% 48th
LowDanger SV% 31st
Goals Saved Above Expected/60 39th

Lyon (185 min)
Sv% 59th
GAA 64th
High Danger SV% 50th
MediumDanger SV% 28th
LowDanger SV% 61st
Goals Saved Above Expected/60 61st

UPL has separated himself, he should be the clear #1 moving forward. 

A decision needs to be made on the backup. 

I don’t know about separating himself.  Lyon did not play much in November after carrying the load prior to that.  

It’s hard to trust UPL based on this.  Last year he was terrible, Reimer finished the season much better than UPL.  

Edited 21 hours ago by Pimlach

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17 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Something I find interesting.  From Elliotte Friedman on Friday:

“Luukkonen has asked to play more.”

“You know, Luukkonen wanted to play more.”

While I don’t have a problem with a guy wanting the crease, it’s weird to me that Friedman reported this while talking about the  Sabres. Why is the player’s agent squawking to the media about playing time? What’s the motive?

It’s just weird to me.  

It's just (another) red flag regarding Mega Meh (aka UPL) 

Slow hands, softies, and his 'tude' are prime reasons why I'd rather his gloomy gus a$$ be shipped off to ANYWHERE else!!! 

Seen enough. Had enough!!! 

Can't frigging stand him! 

Goodbye! 

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12 hours ago, inkman said:

Kevyn is too much of a dolt to form an opinion that matters.  The reason Levi is in the AHL is because he can be. Adams doesn’t have the brain power to understand that Devon might be their best goalie not to mention Adams isn’t smart enough to promote Levi and make the requisite roster moves to accommodate the transaction. 

BINGO!!!!

[PromoTheRobot]

13 hours ago, inkman said:

Kevyn is too much of a dolt to form an opinion that matters.  The reason Levi is in the AHL is because he can be. Adams doesn’t have the brain power to understand that Devon might be their best goalie not to mention Adams isn’t smart enough to promote Levi and make the requisite roster moves to accommodate the transaction. 

Do you believe Levi is the best goalie in the Sabres system? Why? 

Also describe the "requisite roster moves" that would prevent the Sabres from losing assets? 

Edited 11 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[shrader]

Beyond the numbers, I think it has become clear over the last stretch of games that the team believes UPL is their #1. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, shrader said:

Beyond the numbers, I think it has become clear over the last stretch of games that the team believes UPL is their #1. 

I don't. Nothing suggests any conclusion to that effect. 

[Carmel Corn]

If Kevyn had the balls to strive for a much needed culture change, then IMHO it is clear he needs to move UPL out.  UPL hasn’t been part of the solution for how many years now and I’d like to see his salary used for other talent.  I’m not in the locker room, but what little I see tells me the guys like Lyon and Ellis more.  

Only the Sabres can keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again….in this case a 3 headed goalie monster.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

If Kevyn had the balls to strive for a much needed culture change, then IMHO it is clear he needs to move UPL out.  UPL hasn’t been part of the solution for how many years now and I’d like to see his salary used for other talent.  I’m not in the locker room, but what little I see tells me the guys like Lyon and Ellis more.  

Only the Sabres can keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again….in this case a 3 headed goalie monster.

How do you know they aren't shopping him? Other teams scouts attend Sabres games regularly.

And you are calling the 3- goalie thing a repeated mistake. Are you saying claiming Ellis off waivers was a mistake? 

Edited 11 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[matter2003]

[quill]

14 minutes ago, shrader said:

Beyond the numbers, I think it has become clear over the last stretch of games that the team believes UPL is their #1. 

There is little doubt that the team considers UPL their #1 for now, at least until he starts sucking again. Then he'll be their #? and the vicious cycle returns.

[kas23]

I really doubt this is “coming to an end”. I hope this post doesn’t age well, but there has been a zillion of things KA has “tried” but never come to be. The only way around this is to just waive one of them and I don’t think KA has that in him. 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I don't. Nothing suggests any conclusion to that effect. 

He had 3 consecutive starts at the end of November.  No one else is getting that treatment.

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2 hours ago, shrader said:

Beyond the numbers, I think it has become clear over the last stretch of games that the team believes UPL is their #1. 

I think it's more, Terry is getting PO'd about the cash hemorrhaging that his lap dog GM produces, and is forcing certain decisions, ala personnel, which IMO is a TERRIBLE way to manage a squad's "assets." 

And, around and around we go 😵‍💫

[Eleven]

16 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I think Lyon is Lyon

Now that's just crazy talk.

[PromoTheRobot]

46 minutes ago, shrader said:

He had 3 consecutive starts at the end of November.  No one else is getting that treatment.

You don't know why, tho. Is he the #1 goalie now or was he being showcased for scouts?

[shrader]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You don't know why, tho. Is he the #1 goalie now or was he being showcased for scouts?

I don’t for a second think that this is something that happens at this stage of a season. 

[JoeSchmoe]

Who came up with the term three-headed monster?  Does anyone else besides me find it kind of annoying? In my case, I once sat beside a guy who talked about it all game in the Levi, Comrie, UPL days, but I don't think I liked the term even before then.

[mjd1001]

5 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Who came up with the term three-headed monster?  Does anyone else besides me find it kind of annoying? In my case, I once sat beside a guy who talked about it all game in the Levi, Comrie, UPL days, but I don't think I liked the term even before then.

I agree in a way.

When I think of the term 'three headed monster' I think of something scary in a dangerous kind of way...not a negative way.

I don't like this one either but the saying "If you have 3 goalies, that means you don't have 1 (legit) goalie"...is more appropriate than 'three headed monster'.  Any catchphrase that lasts more than a day or two, however, can get annoying.

[JohninMinn.]

Promote Levi and ride him to the Cup.

[Weave]

2 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

I agree in a way.

When I think of the term 'three headed monster' I think of something scary in a dangerous kind of way...not a negative way.

I don't like this one either but the saying "If you have 3 goalies, that means you don't have 1 (legit) goalie"...is more appropriate than 'three headed monster'.  Any catchphrase that lasts more than a day or two, however, can get annoying.

Oh, its scary. In a negative way.

Edited 31 minutes ago by Weave