What if, we trade Owen Power

[mjd1001]

20 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

a top 6 center?  What about Quinn and Power for a top 6 center and a D?

I don't think Quinn really has much value right now at all. 

He's not a good player.. you can make a case He's a bad player that most teams would be better with a veteran journeyman instead of him, plus it's an additional negative how much they signed him for.

Maybe, maybe another team would give up not so much for him and take a flyer on him... If it didn't cost them much. But he's a reclamation project at this point, and probably I would assume other teams would rather do almost anything else with that amount of money that he has to get paid the next 2 years. 

If Buffalo doesn't want him, I think he falls into the category of. Why would anybody else.

Edited 12 hours ago by mjd1001

[SabreFinn]

I recently read somewhere that Edmonton might be forced to trade Emberson. Might be an interesting rhd to put on a third pair if the suggested trade Power for a forward straight up would happen.

[erickompositör72]

I don't think Power gets us a top 6 forward + an NHL defender in any universe

And I'm someone who thinks Power could be a major force on this team when he reaches his peak.

The only way I would be happy with trading him would be if it really helps us "win now." Are we one Owen Power trade away from that threshold? I don't think so. [Edit: I think we might be able to win a little bit now—not ruling out playoffs—but I'm not sure if trading him is the clincher]

I would also think the "win now" would be the only incentive for the people actually making this decision.

I would put money on watching Owen Power turn into a really good player, and I would regret seeing him do that on another team.

Edited 12 hours ago by erickompositör72

[Porous Five Hole]

Isn’t everybody tired of developing talent for other NHL teams? Defenseman take more time to cook. OP doesn’t turn 23 until next month. 

This team is not better with Power out of the lineup like they are with Cozens out of their lineup.

I would be willing to revisit the conversation next offseason if progress is not seen. He’s coming up on 250 games which is typically a benchmark for forwards development leveling off…D just take longer.  

[Thorny]

47 minutes ago, erickompositör72 said:

I don't think Power gets us a top 6 forward + an NHL defender in any universe

And I'm someone who thinks Power could be a major force on this team when he reaches his peak.

The only way I would be happy with trading him would be if it really helps us "win now." Are we one Owen Power trade away from that threshold? I don't think so. [Edit: I think we might be able to win a little bit now—not ruling out playoffs—but I'm not sure if trading him is the clincher]

I would also think the "win now" would be the only incentive for the people actually making this decision.

I would put money on watching Owen Power turn into a really good player, and I would regret seeing him do that on another team.

If they trade him now, dollars to donuts it’s not for a top 6 C, but rather the dreaded “middle 6”’ C

[Weave]

43 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Isn’t everybody tired of developing talent for other NHL teams? Defenseman take more time to cook. OP doesn’t turn 23 until next month. 

This team is not better with Power out of the lineup like they are with Cozens out of their lineup.

I would be willing to revisit the conversation next offseason if progress is not seen. He’s coming up on 250 games which is typically a benchmark for forwards development leveling off…D just take longer.  

I’m tired of losing.  I don’t give a ***** about developing players for other teams.  I would trade literally anyone on the roster or in the system to make the team better.  

Just now, Thorny said:

If they trade him now, dollars to donuts it’s not for a top 6 C, but rather the dreaded “middle 6”’ C

And that would not be a good trade to make.

[Thorny]

1 minute ago, Weave said:

I’m tired of losing.  I don’t give a ***** about developing players for other teams.  I would trade literally anyone on the roster or in the system to make the team better.  

And that would not be a good trade to make.

And it’s the trade you’ll get. Those are the types of players Adams traded for see: “Josh Norris” (whoever that is)

his deals are just a microcosm of his overall strategy.

“If eveything goes right…”

”Ya but what are the odds o…”

”BUT IF THINGS ALL GO RIGHT…”

The player will have a noticeable possibly fatal flaw and we reap the benefit 

[Weave]

43 minutes ago, Thorny said:

And it’s the trade you’ll get. Those are the types of players Adams traded for see: “Josh Norris” (whoever that is)

his deals are just a microcosm of his overall strategy.

“If eveything goes right…”

”Ya but what are the odds o…”

”BUT IF THINGS ALL GO RIGHT…”

The player will have a noticeable possibly fatal flaw and we reap the benefit 

If I have to limit myself to only the outcomes a severely flawed GM would obtain, I’ll just go back to my usual snark and half witted humor.

[Thorny]

21 minutes ago, Weave said:

If I have to limit myself to only the outcomes a severely flawed GM would obtain, I’ll just go back to my usual snark and half witted humor.

Ya I mean I agree with you in theory. Any player not named McDavid should always be on the table for the right price 

[sabremike]

One of the main reasons Kevyn should've been fired is the idea of him making a horrible ill advised trade like Power for a middle six quality center in a desperate attempt to save his job.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, sabremike said:

One of the main reasons Kevyn should've been fired is the idea of him making a horrible ill advised trade like Power for a middle six quality center in a desperate attempt to save his job.

I wouldn't let Kevyn execute another moves. 

[ska-T Palmtown]

didn't we get a "middle 6 C" for Savoie? A rando midget prospect?

Edited 9 hours ago by ska-T Palmtown

[SABRES 0311]

I think we need a legitimate 1C. Norris is a talented player but injuries make him unreliable. I’d say add Norris to the “should we trade” category.

And….. Tuch.

Between those three I think we could get two top six forwards and a second pair defenseman. If we have to throw in a draft pick then ok.

OP would do well on a team that has foundational physicality. Kind of like how Eichel does well where he doesn’t have to be the leader, he just plays. Similarly OP could just be an offensive forward.

I think both the Sabres and OP would benefit from trading him to the right team.

[LGR4GM]

This team is 6 months away from the 4th rebuild. 

[Rasmus_]

I'd easily move him for a solid two or one line center.  A lot of recommendations elsewhere bring up Will Smith.

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

I'd easily move him for a solid two or one line center.  A lot of recommendations elsewhere bring up Will Smith.

I highly doubt Adams has the ability to pull off a trade like that. Whatever deal he does make will probably just be something he Slaps together last minute 

Edited 9 hours ago by Thorny

[Rasmus_]

4 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I highly doubt Adams has the ability to pull off a trade like that. Whatever deal he does make will probably just be something he Slaps together last minute 

Makes sense.  I can agree w/ that sentiment for sure Thorny.  It's the type of player we'd "like" to get I guess, is a better statement.

[Thorny]

4 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

Makes sense.  I can agree w/ that sentiment for sure Thorny.  It's the type of player we'd "like" to get I guess, is a better statement.

I guess my post isn’t winning any Oscars, eh.

my jokes land less than Hancock did with the critics 

Edited 9 hours ago by Thorny

[LGR4GM]

17 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

I'd easily move him for a solid two or one line center.  A lot of recommendations elsewhere bring up Will Smith.

Now there's a very interesting idea

[Rasmus_]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Now there's a very interesting idea

It's a very intriguing strength for both teams to swap.  Sort of fills a need for SJ long term with a "potential" #1 defensemen and Buffalo can nab at worst a 2nd line center with potential for more. 

[inkman]

37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Now there's a very interesting idea

 

34 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

It's a very intriguing strength for both teams to swap.  Sort of fills a need for SJ long term with a "potential" #1 defensemen and Buffalo can nab at worst a 2nd line center with potential for more. 

Getting jiggy with it gonna hit so hard as his goal song 

57 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

I'd easily move him for a solid two or one line center.  A lot of recommendations elsewhere bring up Will Smith.

I’m dubious as to what websites are making these “recommendations”.  Sounds click baity.  

[Believer]

3 hours ago, erickompositör72 said:

I don't think Power gets us a top 6 forward + an NHL defender in any universe

And I'm someone who thinks Power could be a major force on this team when he reaches his peak.

The only way I would be happy with trading him would be if it really helps us "win now." Are we one Owen Power trade away from that threshold? I don't think so. [Edit: I think we might be able to win a little bit now—not ruling out playoffs—but I'm not sure if trading him is the clincher]

I would also think the "win now" would be the only incentive for the people actually making this decision.

I would put money on watching Owen Power turn into a really good player, and I would regret seeing him do that on another team.

Think Power showed the game he is capable of against Ottawa.

Fast, aggressive, physical. Had not seen that from him before. 

Would give him a season or two to get stronger and smarter to develop that game.

It’s in there if he decides to be that player. 

If Power turns out to be nothing more than a weak D offensive D man who will score 20+ goals, would let a new GM trade him while he still has draft pedigree promise for a skater of equal goal scoring value with proven compete, will to win, and Cup experience. 

 

[Broken Ankles]

7 hours ago, Thorny said:

Reinhart was a ghost well into his 4th post draft season. Clock turned for him January 1, 2018. Power isn’t even there yet and he’s a d-man with a longer dev curve 

[Crusader1969]

Definitely not ready to trade Power at this point. 
however, I also know that McLeod is a 3rd line center and Krebs at best is a 4th line center.  
 

That leaves Östlund and Kulich as your top 2 centers (though I doubt they through Östlund to the wolves right away) 

This is my long winded way of saying that they need a top 6 center and need to explore every possibility, including trading Power

Just talking out loud here but if Vancouver is seriously considering an EP buyout after this season, maybe you need to explore what it would take to get him on the cheap? 

 

 

[Porous Five Hole]

4 hours ago, Weave said:

I’m tired of losing.  I don’t give a ***** about developing players for other teams.  I would trade literally anyone on the roster or in the system to make the team better.  

And that would not be a good trade to make.

I am also very tired of losing. But that doesn’t mean blowing ***** up is the best course of action. If a trade guarantees the playoffs, I’m all in. But it doesn’t.  
I hate where we are as a team, but I’m not cashing out at a top pick right now. We’ve already tried that routine and it didn’t work. We have 76 more games to make this team work. Let’s go.