Alex Tuch contract talks

[Mr Peabody]

Guessing TP promised KA 5 years and thus he’s here for the year like the rest of us.  If you want to make chicken salad out of this you might say TP keeping his word might attract better replacements?   Buckle up. 

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

He can't clean house without having someone better that is identified and ready to take over.  That will probably be after the season.  

He cannot let Adams make trades of key assets like Tuch, Byram, etc.  Adams is not a capable GM and has to go.  For Terry to think Adams can POHO and Jarmo GM - no to that too.  

This roster does not look like a playoff team but maybe the team can actually compete and win a few games and the season can be about Benson, Kulich, Doan, Helenius, Kesselring, Power, and a TBD goalie all getting better?  That is what they need to happen anyway.  

Game 2 is just hours away.  

 

The bald Finnish guy says 'hi.'

[GASabresIUFAN]

Tuch trade watch has begun.  
 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/nhl_weekend_rumors_tuch_necas_trades_kempe_problem_oilers_goalie_change/s1_16454_42883959

Edited 3 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, Thorny said:

No when you have the worst GM in the league and that’s non hyperbolic you get better by simply sending him out the door. We aren’t just saying these things.

i don’t care how bad Terry is, Adams is a hugely problematic and destructive entity all his own. Try someone else - was obviously the correct course during the offseason. Anyone else would be preferable. Literally 

 

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Nonsense. I could get a one eyed blind dog with rabies, write trade ideas on treats and let him pick at random and it would be better than Kevyn Adams. 

Adams should be fired, today. 

 

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

The bald Finnish guy says 'hi.'

 

I feel you guys a are talking out of anger rather than being strategic and finding the best person.  The anyone can do better comments didn't work replacing Murray or Boterill either.  

If Terry has a replacement in mind right now then fine, fire Adams yesterday.  If he plans on looking around and interviewing people then he has two choices.  One is to wait until he finds that person (which is possibly year end but doesn't have to be), and two is to fire Adams and assign an interim GM from the current staff.  If you do the second, are he letting the interim GM (most likely Jarmo) move players?   That could be a problem for the next guy.  

If he just wants to jump to Jarmo right now he  runs the risk on missing other candidates.  

Terry will not do a thing, at least not for awhile.  

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Pimlach

[Taro T]

22 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

 

 

I feel you guys a are talking out of anger rather than being strategic and finding the best person.  The anyone can do better comments didn't work replacing Murray or Boterill either.  

If Terry has a replacement in mind right now then fine, fire Adams yesterday.  If he plans on looking around and interviewing people then he has two choices.  One is to wait until he finds that person (which is possibly year end but doesn't have to be), and two is to fire Adams and assign an interim GM from the current staff.  If you do the second, are he letting the interim GM (most likely Jarmo) move players?   That could be a problem for the next guy.  

If he just wants to jump to Jarmo right now he  runs the risk on missing other candidates.  

Terry will not do a thing, at least not for awhile.  

 

Kekalainen, while having Zito under him, did a fantastic job in C-bus.  Personally expect a significant portion of that was Zito, but Jarmo MIGHT be good in his own right.  You have him in house; if you've been leaning towards making him the next GM while bumping Adams up should things have gone well this year, bump him into Adams role now and find out what you have.

If they bring in an outsider this off-season, Kekalainen is likely gone anyhow, so there really isn't anything lost by making the Jarmo portion of the move now.

And does it matter whether it's Adams moving players or Jarmo moving players if a different guy is brought in after the season?  MHO they're essentially equivalent on that front.  But, like stated already, if you give Jarmo a chance now (or Karmanos for that matter), you have nearly an entire season to see how he operates when the man and you'll get an idea through a trade or 2 ahead of the deadline and then deadline day to find out just what you have in him.

And, no, they won't do a thing now.  But they SHOULD.  (Of course that was true the day they were eliminated last season.)

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

 

 

 

I feel you guys a are talking out of anger rather than being strategic and finding the best person.  The anyone can do better comments didn't work replacing Murray or Boterill either.  

If Terry has a replacement in mind right now then fine, fire Adams yesterday.  If he plans on looking around and interviewing people then he has two choices.  One is to wait until he finds that person (which is possibly year end but doesn't have to be), and two is to fire Adams and assign an interim GM from the current staff.  If you do the second, are he letting the interim GM (most likely Jarmo) move players?   That could be a problem for the next guy.  

If he just wants to jump to Jarmo right now he  runs the risk on missing other candidates.  

Terry will not do a thing, at least not for awhile.  

 

They need to act like there is a standard, now. It’s ok to operate like there’s no standard for another 6 months?

“The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!”

they have ingrained a culture of low expectations, ironic given the mandate upon which “Kevyn Adams” took over.

Draw the line. Fire him. Should someone better become available later, you’ll have a better chance of landing them for having shown you have a standard 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Thorny said:

They need to act like there is a standard, now. It’s ok to operate like there’s no standard for another 6 months?

“The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!”

they have ingrained a culture of low expectations, ironic given the mandate upon which “Kevyn Adams” took over.

Draw the line. Fire him. Should someone better become available later, you’ll have a better chance of landing them for having shown you have a standard 

Great movie

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Kekalainen, while having Zito under him, did a fantastic job in C-bus.  Personally expect a significant portion of that was Zito, but Jarmo MIGHT be good in his own right.  You have him in house; if you've been leaning towards making him the next GM while bumping Adams up should things have gone well this year, bump him into Adams role now and find out what you have.

If they bring in an outsider this off-season, Kekalainen is likely gone anyhow, so there really isn't anything lost by making the Jarmo portion of the move now.

And does it matter whether it's Adams moving players or Jarmo moving players if a different guy is brought in after the season?  MHO they're essentially equivalent on that front.  But, like stated already, if you give Jarmo a chance now (or Karmanos for that matter), you have nearly an entire season to see how he operates when the man and you'll get an idea through a trade or 2 ahead of the deadline and then deadline day to find out just what you have in him.

And, no, they won't do a thing now.  But they SHOULD.  (Of course that was true the day they were eliminated last season.)

Please know that when I play these “what if” scenarios, I and putting myself in Pegulas shoes.  I would never have Adams hired in the first place.  

Firing Adams after one game, after all of his fawning over Adams, and all the votes of confidence,  will make Terry look even worse to the rest of the league.  If that’s even possible.  

He hired Jarmo to help Adams and I believe his intentions is to move Adams up, not out.  I think he will give them time. More time than most fans will like.  

Rather than constantly vent, I prefer to watch and see what this group does and if the core steps up, and if the youth improves.  Come Christmas we will know more, and it’s likely all the gloom and doom is confirmed.  Until then I want to enjoy my favorite hockey team.  

[LGR4GM]

"We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats."