Porous Five Hole Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 The 2025-26 thresholds are as follows: ≥ $11,700,193 4x 1st Round Picks $9,360,154 - $11,700,192 2x 1st Round Picks, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $7,020,114 - $9,360,153 1x 1st Round Pick, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $4,680,077 - $7,020,113 1x 1st Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $2,340,038 - $4,680,076 1x 2nd Round Pick $1,544,425 - $2,340,037 1x 3rd Round Pick ≤ $1,544,424 No Compensation BUT HERE’S THE THING. You must keep in mind that if the length of the offer sheet is longer than 5 years, they divide the total contract value by 5 for AAV tier & not the actual length. If the term is less than 5, they divide by actual length for AAV. I think this rule probably keeps Peterka here. Say he goes for an 8MM offer sheet for 6 years , that is 48MM in total value. 48MM / 5 years =9.6MM/year AAV. The compensation for not matching would then be 2x 1st Round Picks, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick. And that’s a ton of compensation for a team to give up for a guy like JJ Peterka. I think he’s here on a bridge deal next year. Related, it also makes the Leafs Matthew Knies very expensive to acquire via offer sheet. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 Basically, it’s only the 3rd tier you’re worried about. You match the 4th and you take the picks with the 2nd. And that goes for both Byram and JJ. The danger spot is anything that translates to over $8M AAV from a team in the upper half of the league. That’s where you’re paying more than you want in contract, but getting less in compensation than you probably could have in trade. Remember, it’s not just the draft picks you’re getting in compensation, there is also the cap space you get to backfill. 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, dudacek said: Basically, it’s only the 3rd tier you’re worried about. You match the 4th and you take the picks with the 2nd. And that goes for both Byram and JJ. The danger spot is anything that translates to over $8M AAV from a team in the upper half of the league. That’s where you’re paying more than you want in contract, but getting less in compensation than you probably could have in trade. Remember, it’s not just the draft picks you’re getting in compensation, there is also the cap space you get to backfill. To the bolded: you a veddy funny man Mr. Dudacek! Quote
Mr. MVP Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 All depends what team it is and where we think their 1st is going to be. But still, let’s say we get a lower tier team to offer sheet Peterka. And let’s say that pick becomes the 10th overall selection. Not only are we basically hoping that pick becomes a player close to as good as Peterka, but also waiting 3 plus years for him to get to Petrekas level. Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 He has such crazy good chemistry with Quinn that he is probably worth more to us than to another team. Quote
Mr. MVP Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We could also offer sheet other players. I feel like we are the team that other teams would JUMP on our pick and let us have the player. We could be the McKenna lottery ticket. Quote
Archie Lee Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 36 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We could also offer sheet other players. We could, but it is nearly impossible to imagine Adams doing so. Also, we don’t have our 2nd in 2026 (included in the Norris trade), which limits the options. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 We could offer sheet other players, and I could also become an Olympic gold medalist 😂 Adams is an Ameoba, just kinda exists, has no backbone and is slimy. 1 Quote
Mr. MVP Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 There’s some good options this year. Bouchard, Dobson Knies, Rossi, McTavish and a couple other good players. Quote
Taro T Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 53 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We could also offer sheet other players. While technically true, the same GM from the past 5 years is still on the job. So ... Quote
klos1963 Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: We could also offer sheet other players. But the player would have to sign it, right? I doubt that happens. 2 Quote
SABRES 0311 Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said: The 2025-26 thresholds are as follows: ≥ $11,700,193 4x 1st Round Picks $9,360,154 - $11,700,192 2x 1st Round Picks, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $7,020,114 - $9,360,153 1x 1st Round Pick, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $4,680,077 - $7,020,113 1x 1st Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick $2,340,038 - $4,680,076 1x 2nd Round Pick $1,544,425 - $2,340,037 1x 3rd Round Pick ≤ $1,544,424 No Compensation BUT HERE’S THE THING. You must keep in mind that if the length of the offer sheet is longer than 5 years, they divide the total contract value by 5 for AAV tier & not the actual length. If the term is less than 5, they divide by actual length for AAV. I think this rule probably keeps Peterka here. Say he goes for an 8MM offer sheet for 6 years , that is 48MM in total value. 48MM / 5 years =9.6MM/year AAV. The compensation for not matching would then be 2x 1st Round Picks, 1x 2nd Round Pick, 1x 3rd Round Pick. And that’s a ton of compensation for a team to give up for a guy like JJ Peterka. I think he’s here on a bridge deal next year. Related, it also makes the Leafs Matthew Knies very expensive to acquire via offer sheet. Good job on this. 1 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 Capwages has updated, too. You can now see which teams have the draft capital required for the 2026 picks and beyond: https://capwages.com/tools/offer-sheet Side note: the Mammoth logo is very muddled when viewed as a small icon. It's too busy for its height. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 11 hours ago, klos1963 said: But the player would have to sign it, right? I doubt that happens. Yes. I think there are players undervalued by their current teams who would sign for a chance. Noah Dobson for example might not get the contract offer he wants from his current team. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 6 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Yes. I think there are players undervalued by their current teams who would sign for a chance. Noah Dobson for example might not get the contract offer he wants from his current team. What would you offer him to be a Sabre? 19 hours ago, Mr. Allen said: There’s some good options this year. Bouchard, Dobson Knies, Rossi, McTavish and a couple other good players. Everybody on every team is talking about Knies. I suspect if Leafs do let Marner walk then Knies will be paid to stay. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 20 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: We could offer sheet other players, and I could also become an Olympic gold medalist 😂 Adams is an Ameoba, just kinda exists, has no backbone and is slimy. Does an Ameoba have a brain? Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: Does an Ameoba have a brain? They do not, single celled organisms... So the analogy fits even more 😂 1 Quote
steveoath Posted May 15 Report Posted May 15 Am I right in thinking we don’t have our 2026 2nd rounder making talks of offer sheet pretty pointless. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted May 15 Report Posted May 15 4 hours ago, steveoath said: Am I right in thinking we don’t have our 2026 2nd rounder making talks of offer sheet pretty pointless. St. Louis had to reacquire their 2nd last year for exactly that purpose. Adams could trade a 2027 BUF 2nd to regain the 2026 BUF 2nd from Ottawa. Quote
steveoath Posted May 15 Report Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: St. Louis had to reacquire their 2nd last year for exactly that purpose. Adams could trade a 2027 BUF 2nd to regain the 2026 BUF 2nd from Ottawa. Do Ottawa have anyone worth offer sheeting. Cos that would be hilarious… trade for our second rounder back then immediately throw an offer sheet at them haha. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted May 15 Report Posted May 15 28 minutes ago, steveoath said: Do Ottawa have anyone worth offer sheeting. Cos that would be hilarious… trade for our second rounder back then immediately throw an offer sheet at them haha. Fabian Zetterlund? Quote
Broken Ankles Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 8 hours ago, steveoath said: Do Ottawa have anyone worth offer sheeting. Cos that would be hilarious… trade for our second rounder back then immediately throw an offer sheet at them haha. Serious question. What makes you think the timid and weak GM we have would ever dare attempt to give an offer sheet? And on the other end of the spectrum, what player would accept one with the current GM/coach/owner combination in Buffalo? The odds of it happening- a Blutarsky. Zero point zero. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 On 5/14/2025 at 4:13 PM, PerreaultForever said: What would you offer him to be a Sabre? Everybody on every team is talking about Knies. I suspect if Leafs do let Marner walk then Knies will be paid to stay. You'd have to keep it in that 9.3 range so... 8.5 x6 years. I think you might be able to trade for him which is probably preferable... or he could be unavailable entirely. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 8 hours ago, LGR4GM said: You'd have to keep it in that 9.3 range so... 8.5 x6 years. I think you might be able to trade for him which is probably preferable... or he could be unavailable entirely. That's a lot for Knies but I'm not opposed to it. Some sort of bold moves need to be made. Quote
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