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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Some of should I say many of you are narrowing your gaze too much. You can't see the forest through the Martin Tree. 

In my case, it's because I've seen the kid play since he was younger.

In minor hockey you get a lot of silver spoon kids who get in with all the best teams and coaches, with private development sessions plus a team practice almost every night of the week. These are kids that even if they get a full scholarship, the family won't even break even for the time and money they spent... And they don't even care. There are several in this draft that I know of.

Martin was not that kid, and I think his ceiling might be a bit higher as a result. 

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1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said:

In my case, it's because I've seen the kid play since he was younger.

In minor hockey you get a lot of silver spoon kids who get in with all the best teams and coaches, with private development sessions plus a team practice almost every night of the week. These are kids that even if they get a full scholarship, the family won't even break even for the time and money they spent... And they don't even care. There are several in this draft that I know of.

Martin was not that kid, and I think his ceiling might be a bit higher as a result. 

I've always wondered how much this matters: the Gordie Howe/Ted Nolan magazines for shinpads path versus the "My parents have invested everything they could since the day I was 9" path.

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10 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I've always wondered how much this matters: the Gordie Howe/Ted Nolan magazines for shinpads path versus the "My parents have invested everything they could since the day I was 9" path.

These kids are well down that path before the age of 9.

I recall watching a Toronto based team starring a certain kid in this draft that was executing regroups and zone entries when they were 7 and 8 years old. These kids were probably all identified since they were 4 or 5 and pushed into the meat grinder from there.

To have the time to work on those systems, plus get them skating and playing with the skill they had was mind blowing.

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5 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

These kids are well down that path before the age of 9.

I recall watching a Toronto based team starring a certain kid in this draft that was executing regroups and zone entries when they were 7 and 8 years old. These kids were probably all identified since they were 4 or 5 and pushed into the meat grinder from there.

To have the time to work on those systems, plus get them skating and playing with the skill they had was mind blowing.

My kid is nine and playing hockey, it seems like we are far behind in development 😄

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A couple years ago we moved to a place in way northern NY called Canton (home of Jordan Greenway).  My kid was 4 when we got here and everyone said he was already behind his peers with hockey.  Parents were putting their kids on the ice at 2.  It’s not always the kids that want this.  It’s the parents.  

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24 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

A couple years ago we moved to a place in way northern NY called Canton (home of Jordan Greenway).  My kid was 4 when we got here and everyone said he was already behind his peers with hockey.  Parents were putting their kids on the ice at 2.  It’s not always the kids that want this.  It’s the parents.  

I put a tiny rink in the backyard when my son was 2. No way he was ready to skate then, but he did like playing hockey in his boots then. Same story for my daughter. I suppose I could have pushed them, but as you said, it's got to be fun for them. 

When they were 3 they started skating lessons ran by the local figure skating club and by then they had the dexterity to actually enjoy it. I still remember they put toys on the ice that the kids could skate to as motivators. My son would always chase the hockey stick and puck. He'd get to take a shot before they'd move it to another location.

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