LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Eleven said: Oh boy. I'm leaving this as a link instead of embedding the tweet for a reason. Trigger warning and I mean it. https://twitter.com/benpopecst/status/1418325746884431873?s=21 Saw it earlier and am still processing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, bunomatic said: Not sure why blackhawks player didn’t kick the **** out of Bradly. There are numerous possible reactions to impending danger and a possible traumatic event. This is one of them but it is not your call to make what an individual does when cornered into a situation like this. The events described are very unfortunate and we should cast no judgement on the victim at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Just saw that this is a thing. JFC Edited July 23, 2021 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: There are numerous possible reactions to impending danger and a possible traumatic event. This is one of them but it is not your call to make what an individual does when cornered into a situation like this. The events described are very unfortunate and we should cast no judgement on the victim at this time. Yours truly might be mistaking @bunomatic's point, but pretty sure he was referring to the players that were alleged to have hazed "John Doe 1" further after the alleged actions of the video coach became known amongst the team. From an outside perspective, it might be reasonably assumed the players would've backed their teammate rather than his alleged attacker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hoss said: There are numerous possible reactions to impending danger and a possible traumatic event. This is one of them but it is not your call to make what an individual does when cornered into a situation like this. The events described are very unfortunate and we should cast no judgement on the victim at this time. Not casting judgement on anyone. I suppose I could have worded it differently. In that situation if it was me things would have ended differently. And to Taros comment the fact that his own team mates bullied and ridiculed him for his victimhood is beyond reprehensible. They should all be outed. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Taro T said: Yours truly might be mistaking @bunomatic's point, but pretty sure he was referring to the players that were alleged to have hazed "John Doe 1" further after the alleged actions of the video coach became known amongst the team. From an outside perspective, it might be reasonably assumed the players would've backed their teammate rather than his alleged attacker. 19 minutes ago, bunomatic said: Not casting judgement on anyone. I suppose I could have worded it differently. In that situation if it was me things would have ended differently. And to Taros comment the fact that his own team mates bullied and ridiculed him for his victimhood is beyond reprehensible. They should all be outed. Disgusting. Ah, the issue here was the missing "s." He/you said "Blackhawks player" which led me to believe it was the alleged victim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I just read the report of what happened. Horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 There needs to be a serious bloodletting over this. Any execs, league and team, that were aware of this need to removed now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 So am I to understand that the players set up young guys for this horrible situation and then trashed them afterwards as if it was their fault they got abused by a serial abuser? If that's the case those players need to be identified, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: So am I to understand that the players set up young guys for this horrible situation and then trashed them afterwards as if it was their fault they got abused by a serial abuser? If that's the case those players need to be identified, IMO. I may be wrong but the coaches seem to be in on the bullying as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Scouts Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, Weave said: There needs to be a serious bloodletting over this. Any execs, league and team, that were aware of this need to removed now. Couldn't agree more. IF the NHL is as "Socially Conscious" as they claim to be, then The hammer should come down very hard on the Chicago Blackhawks and Coach Joel Q. Serious penalties like loss of draft picks, money etc. , There is no excuse. I'd rather have the Sabres be a ***** franchise because of hockey ineptitude than to be a champion and have this type of abhorrent behavior attached to my favorite team 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, KC Scouts said: Couldn't agree more. IF the NHL is as "Socially Conscious" as they claim to be, then The hammer should come down very hard on the Chicago Blackhawks and Coach Joel Q. Serious penalties like loss of draft picks, money etc. , There is no excuse. I'd rather have the Sabres be a ***** franchise because of hockey ineptitude than to be a champion and have this type of abhorrent behavior attached to my favorite team Something tells me the Hawks will go through a serious rebranding in the next year or two in an attempt to put this behind them. Theres already talk about the logo. This is a pr nightmare and if there are serious repercussions from this they’ll have to save face somehow. Morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, KC Scouts said: Couldn't agree more. IF the NHL is as "Socially Conscious" as they claim to be, then The hammer should come down very hard on the Chicago Blackhawks and Coach Joel Q. Serious penalties like loss of draft picks, money etc. , There is no excuse. I'd rather have the Sabres be a ***** franchise because of hockey ineptitude than to be a champion and have this type of abhorrent behavior attached to my favorite team I agree with you. I’d rather have the stink of losing than the stink of this horrific background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Scouts Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Weave said: I agree with you. I’d rather have the stink of losing than the stink of this horrific background. We'll see if the NHL has the stomach to "fix" an embarrassing situation with a team that is: 1) an "Original Six" franchise 2) a "Big Market" team Something tells me the "Little Weasel" Bettman will sweep it under the rug/ use the excuse that it has to be handled privately to protect the victims. Bottom line is that I don't have the confidence the NHL will "Walk the Walk" after it has "Talked the Talk"..... Edited July 23, 2021 by KC Scouts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) @rwesthead Spoke to NHL team exec today relatively new to hockey world. Past experience in NBA. Shocked NHL hasn't seized control of Blackhawks investigation. Sees potential to tarnish team/league image. Exec: "There's no doubt Adam [Silver] would be taking control if this was an NBA team." Edited July 23, 2021 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Weave Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Good on Boynton for not holding back, but its hard not to notice the guys clammed up about this until after they were out of hockey. What does that tell you? Edited July 30, 2021 by Weave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 There's just so much weird about it, starting with the power imbalance--I would think that on-ice talent is much more important to an organization than a video coach--and continuing with the decade of silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Eleven said: There's just so much weird about it, starting with the power imbalance--I would think that on-ice talent is much more important to an organization than a video coach--and continuing with the decade of silence. I think it gets less weird if you realize that there is a huge difference between “everyone knew of allegations of abuse” and “everyone one knew of abuse.” Seems like there are a lot of people talking as if these are the same thing. WTF is a Brian Campbell supposed to do about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, SwampD said: I think it gets less weird if you realize that there is a huge difference between “everyone knew of allegations of abuse” and “everyone one knew of abuse.” Seems like there are a lot of people talking as if these are the same thing. WTF is a Brian Campbell supposed to do about this? Lay him out Umberger style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) Keep in mind, this is likely a ploy to get someone else to bear the costs of discovery (and all of the someone elses have lawyers who know that), but: Edited August 6, 2021 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Anyone know when Donny G was an assistant coach with the Hawks ? or was he ? Edited August 7, 2021 by bunomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, bunomatic said: Anyone know when Donny G was an assistant coach with the Hawks ? or was he ? Got it. 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, bunomatic said: Got it. 2017 So not during the big cover up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Weave said: So not during the big cover up? No, should've been well after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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