Crusader1969 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Good news for Draft Geeks Both Brad Lambert and Joakim Kemell are on Team Finlands World Junior Final Roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-december-edition/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Not for 2022 draft and not quite Around the NHL worthy either but one of next years top prospects is signed in Russia through 2026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-december-edition/ This is a good one for the size debate thread. Basically exactly what I posted and why I was looking at some of the taller prospects from this draft. The Sabres need to mix in some more big guys who play with some snarl. Every championship team has some and this Sabres team does not, currently. On the Sabres ice atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-december-edition/ Spend 6 paragraphs talking about how important size is... proceeds to list none of the sizes of the prospects they go on to rank. 9 minutes ago, Norcal said: This is a good one for the size debate thread. Basically exactly what I posted and why I was looking at some of the taller prospects from this draft. The Sabres need to mix in some more big guys who play with some snarl. Every championship team has some and this Sabres team does not, currently. On the Sabres ice atleast. Would you draft Geekie (6'4") over Savoie (5'9")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Spend 6 paragraphs talking about how important size is... proceeds to list none of the sizes of the prospects they go on to rank. Would you draft Geekie (6'4") over Savoie (5'9")? Right I was gonna say that. Should have included the sizes, fail. No. The first 3-5 I'd defer to the talent but after that I'd take Slafkofsky or Geekie for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-december-edition/ Sorry but Miroshnichenko isn't even the best Russian prospect let alone top 2 in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Is Ike Howard really a better player then Matthew Savoie?🥴 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Is Ike Howard really a better player then Matthew Savoie?🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 https://thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-december-baracchini/ There is no consensus at all with this draft outside Wright at this point. WJCs will be interesting to see how some of these guys fare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalonill Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: https://thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-december-baracchini/ There is no consensus at all with this draft outside Wright at this point. WJCs will be interesting to see how some of these guys fare. I have to disagree Savoie is definitely in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I have to disagree Savoie is definitely in the mix I mean from the draft sites. They have players all over the place after #1. I agree that Savoie should be right near the top based on talent. Size bias will be the only thing that drops him if he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: https://thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-december-baracchini/ There is no consensus at all with this draft outside Wright at this point. WJCs will be interesting to see how some of these guys fare. I think this ranking is better. From what I've read, Yurov is the Russian winger that drives his line and looks far more engaged and dangerous compared moroshnichenko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Give me one of Nemec, Wright, Savoie, or Yurov with our first pick. If it’s Nemec, grab 2 forwards with the other firsts, if not, grab at least 1 Rd with one of the other firsts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, sabresparaavida said: Give me one of Nemec, Wright, Savoie, or Yurov with our first pick. If it’s Nemec, grab 2 forwards with the other firsts, if not, grab at least 1 Rd with one of the other firsts From what I have read, Nemec has a better floor but a lower ceiling than Jiricek. I wish Nemec was a little bigger because jiricek at 6'3" is really intriguing but Nemec is 6'1" and both guys are listed at around 190lbs so they've eaten their Wheaties. Nemec is about 3 months younger and both play in men's leagues already. Nemec 6'1" 192lbs, 11pts 21gp (0 goals) Jiricek 6'3" 190lbs, 11 pts 21gp (5 goals) Depending on where we draft, snagging one of these 2 with a first would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: From what I have read, Nemec has a better floor but a lower ceiling than Jiricek. I wish Nemec was a little bigger because jiricek at 6'3" is really intriguing but Nemec is 6'1" and both guys are listed at around 190lbs so they've eaten their Wheaties. Nemec is about 3 months younger and both play in men's leagues already. Nemec 6'1" 192lbs, 11pts 21gp (0 goals) Jiricek 6'3" 190lbs, 11 pts 21gp (5 goals) Depending on where we draft, snagging one of these 2 with a first would be cool. If the Sabres traded their lowest first round pick with other picks to move up to the middle of the first round which prospect would you find enticing to pursue? KA's trade up for Peterka appears to have worked well. Maybe he can duplicate the maneuver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 hours ago, Norcal said: Not for 2022 draft and not quite Around the NHL worthy either but one of next years top prospects is signed in Russia through 2026 Is he really going to be in the K for that whole time? Is he even draftable then? 16 hours ago, Flashsabre said: https://thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-december-baracchini/ There is no consensus at all with this draft outside Wright at this point. WJCs will be interesting to see how some of these guys fare. Setting up for that tournament to be as overrated as ever, honestly 12 hours ago, sabresparaavida said: Give me one of Nemec, Wright, Savoie, or Yurov with our first pick. If it’s Nemec, grab 2 centres with the other firsts, if not, grab at least 1 Rd with one of the other firsts FTFY. If the Sabres come away from a draft loaded with centres, where they have 3 first round picks, and don't take a single one after not taking a centre of note in either of the last two drafts either, they are doing it wrong. Teams don't go that long, with that many picks, without taking a C. It's exactly the thing that would be first pointed to in a few years if our C depth isn't strong enough: "hey, maybe we *shouldn't* have gone 3 straight years without drafting a C in the first two rounds". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: Is he really going to be in the K for that whole time? Is he even draftable then? It sucks for the team drafting him that he may be in Russia for another 4-5 years. He may be better than Bedard so you have to draft him if you pick near the top. Money talks, the oligarchs could be paid to release him from his deal if he wanted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, Thorny said: Is he really going to be in the K for that whole time? Is he even draftable then? He is amazing talented, so someone will draft him. It’s just a question of whether he will get drafted where his talent warrants (top-3) or will he drop down to 10ish. His KHL contract encompasses 3 seasons after his draft. He would come over to the NHL for his age 21-22 season. I want to say that it’s doubtful he finishes that contract in the KHL, he would be losing out on serious money at some point, but it’s kind of a weird situation so who knows. 19 minutes ago, French Collection said: It sucks for the team drafting him that he may be in Russia for another 4-5 years. He may be better than Bedard so you have to draft him if you pick near the top. Money talks, the oligarchs could be paid to release him from his deal if he wanted out. Contract runs for 3 seasons after his 2023 draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Michkov is going first overall zero chance he drops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Michkov is going first overall zero chance he drops Dude. It’s a year and a half, 1 and 2/3 seasons, before his draft. Edited December 10, 2021 by Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, JohnC said: If the Sabres traded their lowest first round pick with other picks to move up to the middle of the first round which prospect would you find enticing to pursue? KA's trade up for Peterka appears to have worked well. Maybe he can duplicate the maneuver? I'm not a fan of trading up. Especially not in the first round because it almost guarantees losing your 2nd rounder. In round 2-5, sure why not. However, if Buffalo is sitting in a position at 16-20 to draft a player, super early on right now but, Filip Mesar would be a player to think about in that range especially if you get Nemec or Slafkovsky. Mesar's consolidated ranking is 19. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Matthew Savoie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: Dude. It’s a year and a half, 1 and 2/3 seasons, before his draft. Have you seen his numbers? Its insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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