Curt Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: Have you seen his numbers? Its insane Yeah. It’s entirely possible that he goes #1, but it’s just not a certainty. It’s also possible that he could struggle slightly adjusting to the KHL full time next season, while Bedard puts up iNsANe numbers better than McDavid, and someone takes Bedard 1st. I feel like you do this all the time with prospects. You are way too certain about what you think will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, Curt said: Yeah. It’s entirely possible that he goes #1, but it’s just not a certainty. It’s also possible that he could struggle slightly adjusting to the KHL full time next season, while Bedard puts up iNsANe numbers better than McDavid, and someone takes Bedard 1st. I feel like you do this all the time with prospects. You are way too certain about what you think will happen. He’s lucky there isn’t an old takes exposed thread on this site 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: Yeah. It’s entirely possible that he goes #1, but it’s just not a certainty. It’s also possible that he could struggle slightly adjusting to the KHL full time next season, while Bedard puts up iNsANe numbers better than McDavid, and someone takes Bedard 1st. I feel like you do this all the time with prospects. You are way too certain about what you think will happen. Idk, he's got 5 points in 13 khl games so I think he'll adapt fine. He has 28 points in 11 MHL games. Bedard is 7 months and a few weeks younger and has 24pts in 24 games. Next year will be a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Idk, he's got 5 points in 13 khl games so I think he'll adapt fine. He has 28 points in 11 MHL games. Bedard is 7 months and a few weeks younger and has 24pts in 24 games. Next year will be a race. Yeah, obviously Michkov is awesome. That certainly wasn’t me predicting that he will struggle. I don’t think he will. My point was just that it’s still very uncertain how things will shake out 18 months from now. What if Michkov more or less continues what he is doing, while Bedard hits a little growth spurt, ending up 5’11”+ 190+ by draft time, and also just destroys the WHL for over 2 points per game, and wins MVP of the WJC for a gold medal winning Canada? Something like that scenario is not outlandish. It’s entirely possible and could definitely end up with Bedard being drafted #1. I know that you know all this though, I’m not really railing at you. Next year will be a race indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 In depth look at my #2 fav prospect. closing in on #1 https://nhlentrydraft.com/news/the-analysis-matthew-savoie/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 9:07 PM, Curt said: Yeah, obviously Michkov is awesome. That certainly wasn’t me predicting that he will struggle. I don’t think he will. My point was just that it’s still very uncertain how things will shake out 18 months from now. What if Michkov more or less continues what he is doing, while Bedard hits a little growth spurt, ending up 5’11”+ 190+ by draft time, and also just destroys the WHL for over 2 points per game, and wins MVP of the WJC for a gold medal winning Canada? Something like that scenario is not outlandish. It’s entirely possible and could definitely end up with Bedard being drafted #1. I know that you know all this though, I’m not really railing at you. Next year will be a race indeed. As long as we aren't in it. On 12/11/2021 at 10:39 AM, Crusader1969 said: In depth look at my #2 fav prospect. closing in on #1 https://nhlentrydraft.com/news/the-analysis-matthew-savoie/ As long as we get a C up high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: As long as we aren't in it. As long as we get a C up higher I agree. If we don’t want to destroy the spirit of our young players we can’t continue being bottom dwellers perpetually Savoie could be a C. I’d give it something like 50/50 odds. I kind of love this draft for the Sabres considering their prospect pool weaknesses. Should be something like 7 RHD and 10 or more C’s in the 1st round. With 4 of the first 40 picks, Buffalo should be able to load up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: As long as we aren't in it. As long as we get a C up high We mostly likely will be in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: I agree. If we don’t want to destroy the spirit of our young players we can’t continue being bottom dwellers perpetually Savoie could be a C. I’d give it something like 50/50 odds. I kind of love this draft for the Sabres considering their prospect pool weaknesses. Should be something like 7 RHD and 10 or more C’s in the 1st round. With 4 of the first 40 picks, Buffalo should be able to load up. Why only 50/50? Of the 10 Centers, who would you think has greater odds of ending up a center? My thought would be Wright for sure. Geekie will be a center but I’m taking Savoie over every day of the week. Cooley and lambert seems similar to Savoie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: Why only 50/50? Of the 10 Centers, who would you think has greater odds of ending up a center? My thought would be Wright for sure. Geekie will be a center but I’m taking Savoie over every day of the week. Cooley and lambert seems similar to Savoie. Just because 1) lots of players drafted as C’s end up on the wing, 2) in general NHL teams love to put smaller guys on the wing 3) Savoie has played at quite a bit of wing. Probability guess of being a C, high to low: Wright, Geekie, Cooley, Savoie, McGroarty, Lambert, Yurov Edited December 14, 2021 by Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 9:02 PM, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-december-edition/ They put him 2nd overall in their rankings, he's not even the best 2022 eligible Russian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 It seems like a lot of highly touted prospects are playing lackluster this year. Wonder how much the Covid disruption had on their development. Is this going to be the strong, deep draft year we thought it would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Simon Nemec, 6'1" 192lbs, Feb 15, RHD 13a, 22gp, top Slovakia men's league David Jiricek, 6'3" 190lb, Nov 28, RHD 5g, 6a, 29gp, top Czech men's league Edited December 15, 2021 by LGR4GM added stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Ideal situation would be the Sabres getting one of these guys and they develop like Moritz Seider in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 FYI, if the season ended today, the Sabres would be picking: 4, 19, 30, 36. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, dudacek said: FYI, if the season ended today, the Sabres would be picking: 4, 19, 30, 36. If that were the case, consolidated rankings would have us take... 4 - Joakim Kemell, 5'11" 176lb RW 19 - Filip Mesar, 5'10" 172lb C/RW 30 - Ludwig Jansson, 6' 176lb RHD (I bumped him up a spot because I don't see us taking another 5'10" c/rw in Pano Fimis) 36 - Danny Zhilkin, 6'2" 183lb C (he's 32nd but I don't have more in the consolidated. He is also a Canadian/Russian and that just seems right up our alley) NOTE* these are not the players I would pick. If I had the consolidated rankings (CR), we pretend that is the order players get picked, I can then pick any player not already gone... 4) Loogan Cooley (7 CR), 5'10" 174lb C 19) Filip Mesar, 5'10" 172lb C/RW... or Ty Nelson, 5'10" 196lb RHD 30) Danny Zhilkin, 6'2" 183lb C (There were some other considerations but it is super early and I think he adds a great link between Russia and NA for some of our Russian prospects and he is also pretty good) 36) Reiger Lorenz, 6'2" 185lb C (some of you are probably like who? He is a C/W that plays in the AJHL and is committed to U. Denver next season. His end of March bday and his skills make him a very interesting prospect. He probably needs 2 years of college before transitioning to the AHL but there's a hard working, intelligent, fast player there and he is pacing his AJHL team in points) I was tempted to take out Mesar and put in a RHD and if that were the case... Ty Nelson is the guy. Tristen Luneau is bigger but Nelson I think is better. Nelson has more points in a tougher defensive league, without playing last year. I would say that Luneau is probably on a team with less talent though. You could easily talk me into Luneau is what I am saying, these 2 are close. Edited December 16, 2021 by LGR4GM 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Speaking of Joakim Kemell... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 The names are starting to look like those that are auto generated in the EA sports games for the drafts in franchise mode, to me Rieger Lorenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Thorny said: The names are starting to look like those that are auto generated in the EA sports games for the drafts in franchise mode, to me Rieger Lorenz He has 50pts in 34 AJHL games. 19g, 31a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: He has 50pts in 34 AJHL games. 19g, 31a The game does that thing though where it takes known hockey names like "Regier" or "Regehr" and alters them slightly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: The game does that thing though where it takes known hockey names like "Regier" or "Regehr" and alters them slightly lol It took Darcy Reiger and Jim Lorentz and came up with Rieger Lorenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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