sabresparaavida Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 Jason Robertson is an example of a Kingston player exceeding expectations relative to his draft position. An early 2nd rounder putting up .88 PPg last year and 1.07 so far this year. In a redraft he’d be an early-mid first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Sam Bennett, Lawson Crouse, Michael Dal Colle, would all help back this up. They seem to lack the ability to create NHL players even when they have talent (although 3 guys is a small sample so could be wrong). Thats what i was Referring to your missing some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Wright's inability to score at a 1st OA rate is highly concerning. The WJC will be interesting to see and if that gets him going. It is possible he didn't do enough during the covid break last year and he isn't quite firing on all cylinders but that would almost concern me more. Bloom and Tucker Roberston are only 6 months older than Wright but are either matching his production or in Roberstson's case dropping a 1.79ppg on the OHL. Roberston was undrafted and will get to play with McTavish now so he's going to just pile up all the points. The bigger issue is that Wright isn't even the best guy on his team. He is tied for scoring with 3 guys who have played less games and that just seems odd when first rounders like Cozens, Jarvis, Rossi were all at the top of their teams in points and well clear of anyone else. Rossi/Quinn is the only example that came to mind of a really good first rounder being outscored by a teammate (there are others but just thinking out loud at this point). Quinn was simply on a really talented team and that is something to consider. Wright is on a middle of the road team. You really want to see your guys take over their team in their draft year if possible or at least not being in that middle tier of scoring on the team. This comes down to the idea of involvement percentage or how much of a players production contributes to the teams goals. For example Marco Rossi was involved in 40.96% of the 293 goals his team scored, that is awesome. Jack Quinn was involved in 30.38% which is also really good. Shane Wright currently is involved with 29.73% so that just seems less like a lock first overall guy. Now involvement % is not a be all end all and I didn't bother to compensate for games played here but it does give you some insight into who on a team is really driving the offense. Involvement percentage is best waited on until the end of the year and there are good players who have lower inv% that get drafted, I am more using it to compare across OHL players to have a feel for where this person is. On a terrible team, you would still expect a good player to have a high inv% because they are the offensive generators (Seth Jarvis or Peyton Krebs for example). Should Wright go first overall? Don't know, it is only December and there are 4 more months of important hockey still to play. Interesting numbers. He was involved in 33.3% of Kingston’s goals in 2019-20. He also led them in scoring. He was 15. You would think he should be dominating the OHL this year. Edited December 1, 2021 by French Collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Thats what i was Referring to your missing some No. He isn’t missing any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Curt said: No. He isn’t missing any. Missing alot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Missing alot more Nah. PS: I’m kind of trolling you. Could you contribute some additional names to the conversation instead of just saying “you are missing a bunch of guys”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Curt said: Nah. PS: I’m kind of trolling you. Could you contribute some additional names to the conversation instead of just saying “you are missing a bunch of guys”? Lets not forget the next chris Pronger erik gudbranson he was supposed to be the next big thing. And we have gabriel vilardi hes not Even close to what he was supposed to become They have had 5 top picks bust or not Live up to potential 3 top 15 picks that busted Late rounders all busts but 1 . The great cliff pu busted also Everything they've touched has recently turned into ***** so far besides 1 Edited December 1, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 hours ago, French Collection said: I am surprised by Wright’s numbers. I have watched one of his games and he didn’t stand out. If he continues this play someone else could go #1. Think you meant “Matthew Savoie” could go #1. 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Savoie not making team Canada is a complete joke sucks for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Jonathan Lekkerimäki (C/RW), 5'11" 172lbs with a July 24 bday Consolidated Ranking: 18th Scouting report Quote On several occasions thanks to his game-understanding and quick feet, he showed off great ability to steal pucks from his opponent, which led to his team regaining possession and counterattacking. He is tenacious with his stick defensively. Jonathan works hard all over the ice and finds himself in good position to receive pucks and help his teammates. He gets a lot of defensive-zone starts and was on one of their PK units. Offensively, Lekkerimäki is fun to watch. A “shoot-first-mentality” combined with rapid hands and creativity makes him a serious threat. https://www.draftinghockey.com/post/jonathan-lekkerimäki-turning-heads-at-the-u20-level Edited December 2, 2021 by LGR4GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) David Jiříček (RHD), 6'3" 190lbs with a Nov 28 bday Consolidated Ranking: 11th Scouting report Quote For a player his size, he is a fantastic skater with good edgework. His size advantage allows him to be very aggressive defending on his own blue line and forcing the opposition to dump the puck into the zone rather than gaining clean zone entry. He is extremely physical and likes to lay big hits on opponents, especially along the boards. https://dobberprospects.com/player/david-jiricek/ Quote Nov 2021: Jiricek is a big part of a top team in the Tipsport Extraliga, where he is contributing at both ends and driving possession and scoring results for the second consecutive season, now while playing more than 18 minutes a game. https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article -------------------------------- EP Rinkside Edited December 2, 2021 by LGR4GM added video 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 https://nhlentrydraft.com/rankings/?draft_year=2022&position=&league=&last_name= FC Rankings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Logan Cooley (C), 5'10" 174lbs with a May 4th bday Consolidated Ranking: 8th Scouting Report Quote Logan Cooley is a supremely talented 200-foot forward. He plays a dual-threat offensive game paired with tenacity and smarts. His already strong skating glues his entire game together. Finally, his advanced defensive game for his age is just the cherry on top. Arguably this writer’s favourite aspect of Cooley’s game is his transitional abilities. He has great stickhandling ability, high-end IQ, high-end skating, and excellent vision with the puck. Through those three tracked games, Cooley successfully entered the offensive zone with possession on 69.44% of the total entries he directly influenced. Possessional entries include passing the puck to a teammate or skating it in himself, and of his 25 successful entries, 17 were done with him skating it in himself. That’s a staple of his game. It’s even more apparent in his zone exit numbers. Across those same three games, Cooley was directly involved in 12 zone exit attempts, clearing the puck with possession on 58.33% of them. All seven of his successful exits were done by him skating it out himself. https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2021/11/27/logan-cooley-chasing-shane-wright-for-first-overall/ Quote Cooley is one of the most likable players in the draft. He’s a Swiss Army knife player who combines NHL speed and skill with a working attitude to push pace, make plays, win races, stay involved, and get onto the ice in all situations. I love his tempo and feel for the game out there. https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 12:03 AM, Buffalonill said: Savoie not making team Canada is a complete joke sucks for him Not being even invited to camp Seems crazy to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Filip Mesar (C/W), 5'10" 172lbs with a Jan 3rd bday Consolidated Ranking: 20th Scouting Report: Currently plays against men in the top Slovakia league. WJC will be interesting to watch as he was a key contributor, along with 2022 draft eligible Nemec and Slafkovsky, to the Slovak's silver medal win at the Hlinka-Gretzky. Quote The type of player who makes you perk-up when the puck is on his stick. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-november-edition/ Quote He’s an A-level skater (or close) who thrives with the puck on his stick, can play on the perimeter or knife to the inside, and can use space to feed pucks into it or take it to use his versatile and deceptive shot. He’s also a highly involved player who works to use his speed to push tempo and chase down loose pucks. I’ve seen him make NHL skill plays on one shift and win a series of 50/50 battles to make something happen on the next. The fear is that he doesn’t have a game-breaking offensive dimension, nor the size, to turn his enticing package into a high-end NHL player. But that’s a challenge many in this range will face. https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Matthew Savoie (C), 5'9" or 5'10" 179lbs with a Jan 1st bday Consolidated Ranking: 2nd Scouting Report Quote a small forward that plays the game with a puck on a string. He has high-end puck handling, playmaking and vision that make him a dangerous offensive package.... He is a player that elevates everyone on the ice because his movement and ability to create space provide abundant opportunities for all... He can tend to stick around the perimeter but is dangerous from everywhere on the ice. In his own zone and tracking back in the neutral zone he provides a lot of back pressure to support his defense, his game off the puck is surprisingly advanced. https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/prospects-report/matthew-savoie-second-choice-2022-draft Quote Inside the offensive zone, he’s lethal. He’s got extremely quick side-to-side hands that help him beat defenders one-on-one off of cuts. He’s got an NHL shot (which he can place with pinpoint accuracy from a bad angle and rip by a goalie clean from a distance, but he also loves to change up and slide five-hole). He’s excellent in traffic because of his craftiness and maneuverability into scoring spots.... And then on top of those things, he’s got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. He’s always engaged, he keeps his feet moving, he plays with a ton of energy... https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article Video from primarily last season in the USHL Edited December 3, 2021 by LGR4GM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Matthew Savoie (C), 5'9" or 5'10" 179lbs with a Jan 1st bday Consolidated Ranking: 2nd Scouting Report https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/prospects-report/matthew-savoie-second-choice-2022-draft https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article Video from primarily last season in the USHL Wright=Drury Savoie=Briere 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 6:53 AM, LGR4GM said: Logan Cooley (C), 5'10" 174lbs with a May 4th bday Consolidated Ranking: 8th Scouting Report https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2021/11/27/logan-cooley-chasing-shane-wright-for-first-overall/ https://theathletic.com/2887391/2021/11/03/nhl-draft-ranking-scott-wheelers-top-64-prospects-for-2022/?source=emp_shared_article He is looking to me like the most likely Sabres target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) On 12/1/2021 at 9:28 AM, sabresparaavida said: Well, NHL players that meet expectations. Bennet this season has 8G 5A 13P in 18 games, a pace of a good NHL player, but this is one of his best seasons, and you want more out of 4OA. Crouse has 10p in 23 games on a terrible Arizona team, scoring like an NHLer, but again not what you want out of 11OA. Dal Colle is a bit different, he has played like a jag when he has played, but still played over a hundred games. every top pick that came from that organization hasn't Lived up to the potential at all im sorry. Edited December 4, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, dudacek said: He is looking to me like the most likely Sabres target. Rather go Slafkovsky if we're out of the top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Shane Wright heating up is mirroring the Sabres falling apart. Is it destiny?😜🤣 The Burlington boy coming to Buffalo😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Shane Wright heating up is mirroring the Sabres falling apart. Is it destiny?😜🤣 The Burlington boy coming to Buffalo😀 I have no plans at the moment to go to see the Sabres… or are you not talking about this Burlington boy My son who is 16 has friends who know Shane Wright. He says they all say the same -he lives, eats, breathes hockey. Competitive leader, even though he was often 1 to 2 years younger than all his teammates. and yes, the Sabres will be a serious contender for the first overall pick On 12/3/2021 at 10:53 AM, Flashsabre said: Wright=Drury Savoie=Briere 😀 Good comps! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 If Cooley ends up the Sabres guy, @DarthEbriate will have a field day with his birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 ^That, Life Day, and Boonta Eve are pretty much the perfect birthdays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Ivan Miroshnichenko (LW), 6'1" 185lbs, with a Feb 4th bday Consolidated ranking: 9th Scouting report "It’s hard not to draw some comparisons to Ilya Kovalchuk when watching Miroshnichenko play. Given how he has such a high end shot and dynamic skating ability that keeps defenders on edge, it’s fair for him to have the potential to be a first line goal scoring winger. There are still parts of Miroshnichenko’s game that leave you wanting more at times and wishing he could always be impactful. This may ultimately cause Miroshnichenko to slip down the draft board but it certainly will not be for lack of talent." Edited December 7, 2021 by LGR4GM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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