nfreeman Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, ... said: I guess that's a fair metric. I fail to see how this translates into Botterill seeing value in trading for Vesey, unless you think part of the reason for the team's place in the standings is because Botterill is an idiot. And I sincerely mean that, no snark. Because, if we do trade anything for Vesey, I will fully and completely agree that Botterill is a legit idiot. But doesn't it depend on the price? I agree that trading McCabe for him would be nuts, but what about Scandella, Hunwick, O'Regan, a 5th-round pick, or similar cheapo price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, ... said: I guess that's a fair metric. I fail to see how this translates into Botterill seeing value in trading for Vesey, unless you think part of the reason the team's place in the standings are because Botterill is an idiot. And I sincerely mean that, no snark. Because, if we do trade anything for Vesey, I will fully and completely agree that Botterill is a legit idiot. I'm just at the point where I'm skeptical of Botterill's player evaluations. He's turned over most of the roster to, at best, neutral results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, nfreeman said: But doesn't it depend on the price? I agree that trading McCabe for him would be nuts, but what about Scandella, Hunwick, O'Regan, a 5th-round pick, or similar cheapo price? I see more value in a pick - any pick - than I do in Vesey. I could see a 1:1 trade Scandella for Vesey as interesting and likely useful as a means to manage the cap. In fact, if they did that trade and then dumped Vesey in Rochester for the rest of his contract, I would applaud Botterill. This is quite unlikely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, E4 ... Ke2 said: I go by negative inference: if it is true that the Sabres are trying to get Vesey, then I do not trust Botterill to have seen these data. If he has, then I do not trust him to recognize their meaning. He used “their” with “data”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I'm just at the point where I'm skeptical of Botterill's player evaluations. He's turned over most of the roster to, at best, neutral results. I don't blame you. I'm pretty much there myself. However, I don't know if I can handle yet another idiot GM for this team. I don't want that to be true. So, until the off-season moves are complete, I'm trying not to look at it that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Letang and Montreal... that would be an interesting deal if Pittsburgh did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Burakovsky... might be useful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: ? I was in process of deleting it when you quoted my post. You’re too quick! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Brawndo said: I was in process of deleting it when you quoted my post. You’re too quick! It is really, really slow here today ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Vesey was TM’s guy. For the moment. (Rumor has it, but I refuse to believe it) he'll soon be back in our hands. Then he'd be JBot's guy, too. And for the record: I'm not intending to continue the Vesey speculation. I hope that ship has crashed into an planetary shield. 7 minutes ago, WildCard said: It is really, really slow here today ? We're just getting warmed up! Edited June 21, 2019 by DarthEbriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: We're just getting warmed up! Oh I meant at work lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: For the moment. (Rumor has it, but I refuse to believe it) he'll soon be back in our hands. Then he'd be JBot's guy, too. And for the record: I'm not intending to continue the Vesey speculation. I hope that ship has crashed into an planetary shield. We're just getting warmed up! This year feels like 2015 to me. I don't recall when the action started that day, but it seemed like when the first trade came, it was rapid fire after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darksabre Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 I really do think trading Subban right now makes a ton of sense for Nashville. They should do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: I really do think trading Subban right now makes a ton of sense for Nashville. They should do it. Poile will. He is the anti-Darcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Count me in on getting Vesey if the price is right. On our team he's possibly a second line and certainly upgrades a third line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, darksabre said: I really do think trading Subban right now makes a ton of sense for Nashville. They should do it. I agree. And I’d love to find a way to add him. I think they’d prefer to dump almost his entire cap but maybe we can give them a better return if they take a contract off our hands. Okposo would be the dream but if you do that you’re then forced to pay the real price it’d take for a guy like Subban. 1 minute ago, Radar said: Count me in on getting Vesey if the price is right. On our team he's possibly a second line and certainly upgrades a third line. All evidence points to this being inaccurate. He does not appear to be an upgrade (certainly not to a second line and debatable for the third). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tondas Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: I agree. And I’d love to find a way to add him. I think they’d prefer to dump almost his entire cap but maybe we can give them a better return if they take a contract off our hands. Okposo would be the dream but if you do that you’re then forced to pay the real price it’d take for a guy like Subban. All evidence points to this being inaccurate. He does not appear to be an upgrade (certainly not to a second line and debatable for the third). Risto for Subban straight up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: I agree. And I’d love to find a way to add him. I think they’d prefer to dump almost his entire cap but maybe we can give them a better return if they take a contract off our hands. Okposo would be the dream but if you do that you’re then forced to pay the real price it’d take for a guy like Subban. All evidence points to this being inaccurate. He does not appear to be an upgrade (certainly not to a second line and debatable for the third). I think we're stuck with Okposo until his contract is up or he gets bought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoss said: I agree. And I’d love to find a way to add him. I think they’d prefer to dump almost his entire cap but maybe we can give them a better return if they take a contract off our hands. Okposo would be the dream but if you do that you’re then forced to pay the real price it’d take for a guy like Subban. All evidence points to this being inaccurate. He does not appear to be an upgrade (certainly not to a second line and debatable for the third). His point average is as good over the past three years as any LW on our roster not named Skinner. I think he's comparable to Sheary and at two more years at 2.25m I'm interested. Of course it depends on price. I think some Buffalo fans just can't get past he chose the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, darksabre said: I think we're stuck with Okposo until his contract is up or he gets bought out. Or until he's diagnosed with a degenerative back injury (whichever comes first). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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