Huckleberry Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I think they are gunning for mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 So 33.08/74.8 = 44% for Jackson and 25.7/63.3 = 41% for Allen I see what your point is, and I agree his inexperience is huge, but I think this is important too. Allen has said Wyoming ran everything through him and relied on him; analysts and his coach have said the same. If that's true why are you only throwing 41% of the time? Doesn't add up to me It is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) It is odd. https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/passing-play-pct Passing play percentage, by team. Wyoming near the bottom in passing play percentage. Rank Team 2017 4 UCLA 58.69% 39 Oklahoma St 51.17% 47 Louisville 50.00% 53 USC 49.01% 80 Oklahoma 45.67% 84 Wyoming 45.00% Edited March 26, 2018 by Lanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/passing-play-pct Rank Team 2017 Home Away 2016 4 UCLA 58.69% 57.68% 59.60% 60.02% 39 Oklahoma St 51.17% 55.35% 47.54% 50.33% 47 Louisville 50.00% 50.14% 49.91% 47.92% 53 USC 49.01% 47.87% 50.19% 48.62% 80 Oklahoma 45.67% 44.93% 46.19% 41.45% 84 Wyoming 45.00% 45.56% 44.53% 40.27% So Wyoming ranked 84th UCLA 4th Oklahoma 80th (this amazes me) USC 53rd Louisville 53rd Oklahoma is confusing to say the least. Baker had 404 attempts this season, 33rd in the league. Then again, he lead CFB in yards/attempt http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingAttempts/id/99 @NYDNSports BREAKING: Odell Beckham being pursued by LA Rams in possible trade for Giants dynamic wide receiver, sources told our @PLeonardNYDN http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/giants-wr-odell-beckham-pursued-rams-trade-article-1.3897161… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Worth noting, Allen only played 11 games in 2017 and threw 270 passes completing 152 of them. If he completed 4 more passes he'd be at 58%, 9 more he's at 60%. Two seasons ago, he was 209/373 (i.e. 56.0%) while playing all 14 of Wyoming's games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Two seasons ago, he was 209/373 (i.e. 56.0%) while playing all 14 of Wyoming's games. Right, I guess my thought was that in some cases it can be misleading to use completion percentage as proof of anything since +/- of ~5% can be a very thin line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) No analysis just QB's making plays. Take a look. Edited March 27, 2018 by Skurk Liger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Rosen and Mayfield, I'm not posting Darnold because I think the Browns have all but announced him as their pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 It’s down to Allen vs Darnold for the Browns per Chris Mortensen. This has also been said by Benjamin Albright. If the Browns do take Allen, it would disastrous for the trade up crowd, as the Giants would most likely take Darnold and the Jets Rosen. At that point a decision has to made is trading to 4 to get Baker Mayfield worth it as he would probably would not get by the Broncos at five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 It’s down to Allen vs Darnold for the Browns per Chris Mortensen. This has also been said by Benjamin Albright. If the Browns do take Allen, it would disastrous for the trade up crowd, as the Giants would most likely take Darnold and the Jets Rosen. At that point a decision has to made is trading to 4 to get Baker Mayfield worth it as he would probably would not get by the Broncos at five. I mean what's the alternative? 1) Darnold 2) Giants stay - take Chubb 3) Rosen 4) Mayfield Either way the only way I see us being happy is getting to 4 or 2, and I don't think 2 is on the table anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Per rumors Allen is the Jets Target as well. That leaves Rosen or Mayfield at 4 for the Bills to attempt to move up I mean what's the alternative? 1) Darnold 2) Giants stay - take Chubb 3) Rosen 4) Mayfield Either way the only way I see us being happy is getting to 4 or 2, and I don't think 2 is on the table anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I mean what's the alternative? 1) Darnold 2) Giants stay - take Chubb 3) Rosen 4) Mayfield Either way the only way I see us being happy is getting to 4 or 2, and I don't think 2 is on the table anymore Allen is a Jet. Why else would they have brought in 2 veterans and moved to 3? They are drafting Allen at 3 to sit behind the vet for 1-2 years. 1) Darnold 2) Chubb or Rosen 3) Allen 4) Bills should trade up. Take Rosen or Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Per rumors Allen is the Jets Target as well. That leaves Rosen or Mayfield at 4 for the Bills to attempt to move up That's my dream draft right there. Browns/Jets take Darnold/Allen, and somehow we get to pick between Baker and Rosen Allen is a Jet. Why else would they have brought in 2 veterans and moved to 3? They are drafting Allen at 3 to sit behind the vet for 1-2 years. 1) Darnold 2) Chubb or Rosen 3) Allen 4) Bills should trade up. Take Rosen or Mayfield. Some people believe Darnold and Baker could use a season or two to marinate as well. Allen is easily the biggest project though, so I get your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Ben Albright just tweeted this Relax #Browns fans. It's Darnold unless they're blown away by a trade offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think this article convinced that we want Mayfield. As this has gone on I am really down to Mayfield, Rosen, or Darnold as QB's I want in the top half of round 1. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/22/baker-mayfield-advance-analytics-nfl-draft-oklahoma-pff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 @JeremyWGR My Sabres twitter guy that's never wrong... reached out to tell me the Bills covet Baker. Would make sense on being at 12. Would make sense on waiting to trade up higher if necessary. Would potentially protect assets. Could be killed by the Jets at 3 or Denver at 5. https://twitter.com/JeremyWGR/status/978931334977605632 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 @JeremyWGR My Sabres twitter guy that's never wrong... reached out to tell me the Bills covet Baker. Would make sense on being at 12. Would make sense on waiting to trade up higher if necessary. Would potentially protect assets. Could be killed by the Jets at 3 or Denver at 5. https://twitter.com/JeremyWGR/status/978931334977605632 I think most teams do, and that's why nobody is talking about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 https://d3d2maoophos6y.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2018/03/30195527/2018-Contextualized-Quarterbacking2.pdf Somebody did some work, if you wanna read about the QBs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 https://d3d2maoophos6y.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2018/03/30195527/2018-Contextualized-Quarterbacking2.pdf Somebody did some work, if you wanna read about the QBs this year. I eagerly await your mea culpa on Jackson :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 I eagerly await your mea culpa on Jackson :P Neverrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Yea, I'm not drafting Allen. Nope. Mayfield, Jackson and Lauletta are interesting options outside the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 No mention of the Bills trade up to 5 yet? 12 & 22 gone. 1 small skip from 2 if that's the ultimate goal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 No mention of the Bills trade up to 5 yet? 12 & 22 gone. 1 small skip from 2 if that's the ultimate goal now. It's a slow news day, I guess. Are you actually reporting something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's a slow news day, I guess. Are you actually reporting something? Look at your calendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Look at your calendar Easter Sunday ... April ... That Taro. Got me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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