That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Per Friedman in his 30 Things: 28. Eichel, a right-hand shot, likes to carry the puck in on the left side of the ice. He now works with Adam Oates, and Oates is trying to correct an Eichel habit of lifting his right hand on those plays, which obstructs his view. Once he gets that fixed, he will be even more dangerous, better equipped to pick up offensive-zone options. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-decision-galchenyuk-looms-canadiens/ I don't know enough about hockey. What's it look like when Eichel is lifting his right hand on those plays? Like - off of his stick? Moving it up the stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 When he comes in on the left with one hand on his stick, he shields it with his right arm, but he lifts it too high which obstructs his view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Okay - I think I have it in mind now. Something along these lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What an absurdly specific thing to be working on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 27. In 2013-14, a 15-year-old Auston Matthews was called up to the U.S. national under-18 team, which put him in the lineup with 16-year-old Jack Eichel. Danton Cole, who played 318 NHL games from 1989-90 to 1995-96, coached that team. “The thing they had in common? They could both be driven,” he said last weekend. “They understood what it takes to be successful.” Eichel, asked about that, agreed. “I don’t mind being pushed. Neither did (Matthews).” Style-wise? “Similar,” Cole answered. “Eichel is more north-south, Matthews is more flamboyant. Both great players who wanted the puck and wanted to win.” Cole added that Arizona’s Clayton Keller is another one unafraid of being pushed. Well on friedmans 30 thoughts its said he is driven and don't minds being pushed, so I understand they would work on any flaw they can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What an absurdly specific thing to be working on This is the development that makes him better. Other players are still learning to put that arm out, high or not. At some point the tweaks become that specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What an absurdly specific thing to be working on Not the reaction I might expect to news that the team's franchise centre is getting extra help on becoming a better player. And I'm sure it's one of several things they're working on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Not the reaction I might expect to news that the team's franchise centre is getting extra help on becoming a better player. And I'm sure it's one of several things they're working on. Out of all the things he needs to be better on, where his hand is when he does that just seems like such an odd thing to focus on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Out of all the things he needs to be better on, where his hand is when he does that just seems like such an odd thing to focus on I don't think Oates can necessarily come in and "work on," say, getting better in the d-zone. He's a freelance skills coach. This sort of stuff seems like exactly the sort of thing he'd be working on with a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Out of all the things he needs to be better on, where his hand is when he does that just seems like such an odd thing to focus on Yeah, probably just one example of a myriad of things they're working on where they think he can get better. And when are they having these clinics? Can't be during the season? Maybe he worked with him during the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Out of all the things he needs to be better on, where his hand is when he does that just seems like such an odd thing to focus on Its a little weird, but its also a "simple" fix. "Hey, here's something you do thats a little wrong, do it this way instead." Is also probably not something his coaches are working on, unlike stuff like defensive awareness and faceoffs and such. This is a skiilled player to skilled player instruction. Edited February 14, 2017 by sabills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 And when are they having these clinics? Can't be during the season? Maybe he worked with him during the summer? Its a little weird, but its also a "simple" fix. "Hey, here's something you do thats a little wrong, do it this way instead." Is also probably not something his coaches are working on, unlike stuff like defensive awareness and faceoffs and such. This is a skiilled player to skilled player instruction. I wonder whether Oates might also be sending video files to Eichel during the season, having a call or face-time or whatever while they review the video file together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What an absurdly specific thing to be working on But that's kind of the point of 1-on-1 skills coaching. At this level, tweaks to what they're doing is where improvement will come. I'd be real interested in what sort of drills Oates is running to get Jack to make that adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I have heard bad things about Oates. I don't want him poisoning Eichel with his . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is this anything like Cony Hotdog and his infamous workouts with Gary Roberts? Those definitely paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Its a little weird, but its also a "simple" fix. "Hey, here's something you do thats a little wrong, do it this way instead." Is also probably not something his coaches are working on, unlike stuff like defensive awareness and faceoffs and such. This is a skiilled player to skilled player instruction. Not Woods and Terry Murray so much, but I would hope it is the kind of thing Cunneyworth and the rest of the player development crew are pursuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is this anything like Cony Hotdog and his infamous workouts with Gary Roberts? Those definitely paid off. I can't see this being comparable. Oates is playing the outside skills coach role, which is pretty normal. Roberts was all about diet and fitness, which was never going to help Corky Hamwater be a better hockey player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What an absurdly specific thing to be working on When you're elite you're elite because you've mastered every conceivable aspect of the game. That hair of peripheral vision gained here is the difference between a no-look pass going to the tape of his winger or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I can't see this being comparable. Oates is playing the outside skills coach role, which is pretty normal. Roberts was all about diet and fitness, which was never going to help Corky Hamwater be a better hockey player. Have you used Corky Hamwater before? If not its a shame you waited for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Have you used Corky Hamwater before? If not its a shame you waited for it. It's good, but Cy Hgsn is still my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Have you used Corky Hamwater before? If not its a shame you waited for it. I'm sure I've used some derivative of it. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) I can't see this being comparable. Oates is playing the outside skills coach role, which is pretty normal. Roberts was all about diet and fitness, which was never going to help Corky Hamwater be a better hockey player. Have you used Corky Hamwater before? If not its a shame you waited for it. It is glorious. When you're elite you're elite because you've mastered every conceivable aspect of the game. That hair of peripheral vision gained here is the difference between a no-look pass going to the tape of his winger or not. Or maybe making the pass at all? Edited February 14, 2017 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 It appears I used it during a GDT last year and was chastised there as well for not using it previously. :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 It appears I used it during a GDT last year and was chastised there as well for not using it previously. :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 dude looks like - who? him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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