bob_sauve28 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just asking. He is not playing great and was thinking maybe a trip down would do him some good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 What? Toughen him up a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Toughen him up a bit He's fourth on the team in points. What do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 No, but a healthy scratch to watch from the press box might be in order. Not as a "punishment". Just to see the game from a different perspective or whatever. I dunno, it works sometimes. He's having a tough time and has no confidence right now. In fact, it seems like everyone drafted in 2014 has had extended slumps this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sam just needs to be left alone. He'll only get better by playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Though I've been one to definitely believe he's suffering from a sophomore slump, really fail to see any benefit to giving him extended 4th line minutes, a benching, nor especially a demotion. Would be nice if he were the 3rd or 4th best forward on the team at present, and he's probably on most nights about 8th (and a couple of those ahead of him on any given night end up worse than him a night or 2 later, so he's probably been their 6th best forward overall) but you don't send your 8th best forward to the minors. You usually don't even have that guy on the 4th line for large chunks of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Been watching him lately and he is finally starting to hit and play better in the corners. A work in progress but he is being more physical. Once he gets that down and finds a way to encorporate it into his passing game, I think hell be fine. I think he just needs to work thru it. Its coming be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't want Samson hitting and grinding on the wall. I want him in the middle of the ice dishing the puck. Why not try O'Reilly on Samson's wing? O'Reilly can play center in the defensive zone if need be and then Samson can actually have a quality winger to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 He's fourth on the team in points. What do you want? And just in case you missed it.... that makes him 3rd best among forwards (Risto is #2 in points). SAMSON IS DOING FINE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm not willing to demote him just yet, he's still young and developing but has a ways to go. He's a fine young player, but as a #2 overall you want to see more from him, considering the guys that went after him.... Draisaitl, Bennett, Nylander, Larkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm not willing to demote him just yet, he's still young and developing but has a ways to go. He's a fine young player, but as a #2 overall you want to see more from him, considering the guys that went after him.... Draisaitl, Bennett, Nylander, Larkin. And to be honest, watching all of these guys...Bennett has been decent, Nylander's either been sniping Matthews' sick passes or invisible, Larkin has been a complete liability, and Draisaitl looks bad any time he's not on McDavid's wing. Ekblad is having a terrible year too. The whole draft is in their "sophomore slump" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm not willing to demote him just yet, he's still young and developing but has a ways to go. He's a fine young player, but as a #2 overall you want to see more from him, considering the guys that went after him.... Draisaitl, Bennett, Nylander, Larkin. Those guys are all struggling to find consistency too. I'm just not worried at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 And to be honest, watching all of these guys...Bennett has been decent, Nylander's either been sniping Matthews' sick passes or invisible, Larkin has been a complete liability, and Draisaitl looks bad any time he's not on McDavid's wing. Ekblad is having a terrible year too. The whole draft is in their "sophomore slump" Those guys are all struggling to find consistency too. I'm just not worried at all. I agree, those guys are struggling a bit this season. However, they've showed much more thus far in their young careers than Reinhart has and that's somewhat disappointing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Larkin is a bust. Dating back to last year he has 18 points in his last 60 games. Reinhart has 15 points in 30 games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Larkin is a bust. Dating back to last year he has 18 points in his last 60 games. Reinhart has 15 points in 30 games this year. Ut oh! Someone said bust in the Samson thread.... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) I agree, those guys are struggling a bit this season. However, they've showed much more thus far in their young careers than Reinhart has and that's somewhat disappointing IMO. Ekblad certainly, this year notwithstanding. Draisaitl points wise for the time he's played with McDavid. But Bennett, Larkin, Nylander? How? Edited December 19, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ekblad certainly, this year notwithstanding. Draisaitl points wise for the time he's played with McDavid. But Bennett, Larkin, Nylander? How? Leon also had Hall dragging him around and force-feeding him points last year. When Hall got hurt, Leon stopped being a PPG player, or even close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ekblad certainly, this year notwithstanding. Draisaitl points wise for the time he's played with McDavid. But Bennett, Larkin, Nylander? How? Leon also had Hall dragging him around and force-feeding him points last year. When Hall got hurt, Leon stopped being a PPG player, or even close to it. Let me put it this way... if there was a redraft of the 2014 draft, who would you take 1 thru 5? With the first pick I'd take Pastrnak, he's blossomed this season, second in the league in goals with 19. Second pick I'd probably take Ekblad, followed by Draisaitl and Ehlers... Bennett, Fabbri, Larkin and Reinhart would be in the discussion for 5th overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Let me put it this way... if there was a redraft of the 2014 draft, who would you take 1 thru 5? With the first pick I'd take Pastrnak, he's blossomed this season, second in the league in goals with 19. Second pick I'd probably take Ekblad, followed by Draisaitl and Ehlers... Bennett, Fabbri, Larkin and Reinhart would be in the discussion for 5th overall. My redraft would be something like: 1.) Ekblad 2.) Nylander 3.) Ehlers 4.) Reinhart/Draisaitl 5.) Reinhart/Draisaitl 6.) Larkin 7.) Pastrnak Pastrnak is alright...he's basically doubled his career shooting percentage in this stretch this season, has only 7 assists, and is greatly being pumped up by playing with stars, Bergeron and Marchand. He's good, but not 1st overall good. This is a classic case of a lot of puck luck causing what will be several years of overrating, and people constantly asking "What's wrong with Pastrnak?" when he really just regresses back to what he normally is. Nylander, IMO, is going to be a superstar. Ehlers is incredible. Reinhart and Draisaitl are interchangeable for me, though I do think Samson would out-produce him if he spent the last 100 games playing 100% of the time with either McDavid or Hall. I do think that ultimately, Ekblad is the defenseman of this up-and-coming generation of hockey players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think even Flagg is underrating Samson. He's gonna be good, scary good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I still pick him where we drafted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I still pick him where we draftedSame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I still pick him where we drafted The only way I change that is given the two centers we have now (not then), *maybe* a natural winger would be my pick, but that has nothing to do with Samson's play. Having three solid true centers is never a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 My redraft would be something like: 1.) Ekblad 2.) Nylander 3.) Ehlers 4.) Reinhart/Draisaitl 5.) Reinhart/Draisaitl 6.) Larkin 7.) Pastrnak Pastrnak is alright...he's basically doubled his career shooting percentage in this stretch this season, has only 7 assists, and is greatly being pumped up by playing with stars, Bergeron and Marchand. He's good, but not 1st overall good. This is a classic case of a lot of puck luck causing what will be several years of overrating, and people constantly asking "What's wrong with Pastrnak?" when he really just regresses back to what he normally is. Nylander, IMO, is going to be a superstar. Ehlers is incredible. Reinhart and Draisaitl are interchangeable for me, though I do think Samson would out-produce him if he spent the last 100 games playing 100% of the time with either McDavid or Hall. I do think that ultimately, Ekblad is the defenseman of this up-and-coming generation of hockey players. Yes indeed. When Ehlers carries the puck he's playing on a level somewhere between Jack and ROR. Very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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