JJFIVEOH Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 And the claim isn't pointless. I was rebutting something you implied. I'm still looking for a reason why I would imply that she is a liar. I'd have a much easier time accepting your claims if there was one plausible reason why I would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) For the 85th time, no evidence showed up at her door. Are you intentionally ignoring everything here? LGR, stop. You're not helping. Edited September 24, 2015 by shrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 For the 85th time, no evidence showed up at her door. Are you intentionally ignoring everything here? LGR, stop. You're not helping. I am deliberately not helping at this point. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 For the 85th time, no evidence showed up at her door. Are you intentionally ignoring everything here? LGR, stop. You're not helping. http://deadspin.com/lawyer-of-patrick-kanes-accuser-claims-rape-kit-was-tam-1732598494 Thomas Eoannou, the attorney for the woman accusing Patrick Kane of rape, held a press conference today and claimed that the rape kit, which had reportedly shown no signs of Kane’s DNA on the woman’s genital area or underwear, was tampered with. Eoannou discovered this because the rape kit’s evidence bag was left outside the accuser’s mother’s house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 That's obvious, but you still need to stop. It's way too juvenile. http://deadspin.com/lawyer-of-patrick-kanes-accuser-claims-rape-kit-was-tam-1732598494 Thomas Eoannou, the attorney for the woman accusing Patrick Kane of rape, held a press conference today and claimed that the rape kit, which had reportedly shown no signs of Kane’s DNA on the woman’s genital area or underwear, was tampered with. Eoannou discovered this because the rape kit’s evidence bag was left outside the accuser’s mother’s house. A bag that previously contained evidence is not evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 That's obvious, but you still need to stop. It's way too juvenile. A bag that previously contained evidence is not evidence. :flirt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFZG8KQJni8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sigh........................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 ok okay, I promise that's the last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Alright boys. The debate over the meaning of the word "if" has really been beaten to death. (BTW, there really is no ambiguity as to that definition. JJ50 was misusing it. Time to move on.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 ok okay, I promise that's the last one. I used to have some level of respect for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I used to have some level of respect for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seriously, enough with the gifs and videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seriously, enough with the gifs and videos. air your grievances elsewhere, get on topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) A bag that previously contained evidence is not evidence.I was under the impression that both the items in the bag AND the bag itself are both evidence because, as is especially true in a case such as this, parts of the evidence can become attached or soaked into the bag. Edited September 24, 2015 by sodbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was under the impression that both the items in the bag AND the bag itself are both evidence because, as is especially true in a case such as this, parts of the evidence can become attached or soaked into the bag. Ewww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was under the impression that both the items in the bag AND the bag itself are both evidence because, as is especially true in a case such as this, parts of the evidence can become attached or soaked into the bag. I don't think you'd have things soaking into the bag in this case. That's just begging for contamination. Any fluids are going to be contained within their own containers inside the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) air your grievances elsewhere, get on topic! There is a thread for that now, and its WAY more fun than this thread. But you already know that because you've posted there. Just sayin in the nicest possible way... Edited September 24, 2015 by Woods-Racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I am so lost. So very very lost. Maybe some part of this will make sense in the morning. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) If you can't take my word for it, that's your problem. I really couldn't care less.Take your word for it? Your words are all I've relied on here. I'm still looking for a reason why I would imply that she is a liar. I'd have a much easier time accepting your claims if there was one plausible reason why I would do it.Again : I'm a witness to what you wrote. I don't need to understand your motive to say what I saw, what I read. If I'm standing on a street corner, and some dude approaches another guy and punches him in the face, I don't need to understand why he did it to say be did it. Similarly with an impliedly disparaging remark: If someone says something to me that implies someone else is lying, I don't need to understand why that person would say such a thing in order to say what was said and plainly implied. Edited September 24, 2015 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 This is silly. Whether JJ is willing to admit he poorly worded something or not, he has explained what he really intended. Not sure why its still an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I agree it's somewhat silly. I probably should've stepped off. But sometimes I allow my buttons to get pushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresince70 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I don't think you'd have things soaking into the bag in this case. That's just begging for contamination. Any fluids are going to be contained within their own containers inside the bag. You wouldn't have multiple items in a bag. The "kit" is unique in that way (and yes, everything in the box is labeled and in its own container). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 This is silly. Whether JJ is willing to admit he poorly worded something or not, he has explained what he really intended. Not sure why its still an issue. It continued to be an issue because he continued to use that same poor wording. At some point you lose the option of claiming that defense if you keep doing it over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 The bystander comment picked up by a mic at 3:00 says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Take your word for it? Your words are all I've relied on here. Again : I'm a witness to what you wrote. I don't need to understand your motive to say what I saw, what I read. If I'm standing on a street corner, and some dude approaches another guy and punches him in the face, I don't need to understand why he did it to say be did it. Similarly with an impliedly disparaging remark: If someone says something to me that implies someone else is lying, I don't need to understand why that person would say such a thing in order to say what was said and plainly implied. You and LGR need to let it go. I was willing to drop it two pages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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