MattPie Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 This does seem like a pretty big sell, I'm not sure I'm buying yet. :) Drane, you're making a big deal about the fastest coach to 200/250 wins. Anyone want to look to see how many first-time NHL coaches get handed the keys to the previous year's SCF finalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) I like this thread. Not sure I'm sold on Bylsma just yet, but I like this thread. The name Disco Dan I pretty solid, though. I'll second that motion. Thanks Drane for effort and good material. Edited May 14, 2015 by Woods-Racer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Instead of focusing on the concerns of who I feel is an extremely overrated, yet very good candidate in Mike Babcock.......I present to you my perfect choice for the talent, age, and personality of this team. The fastest coach to win 250 games in NHL history.......and he was fired a few weeks later....... Stanley Cup....X's and O's.....Relaxed yet Intense...... NSFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgKZc86G1w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CursOYIj9EU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxfV872txSY I'm enjoying Aaron Asham's "why bother" shoulder pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks for the discussion. I watch the 24/7 series every year and whether or not I truly can profile someone in short order.....there was enough info there to make me really like the guy. I had no idea how analytical he was until I started really digging. I think this guy is a tireless worker, a student of the game, and is always looking for an edge. I also think he is a good hearted guy that likes to have fun. The posterboy for Work Hard / Play Hard. In fact, if anything is truly keeping him an under the radar guy for current interviews, it's probably that some GM's are scared because he is so smart, motivated and balanced. Darcy would never hire this guy. I "could" see Tim Murray doing it. Like some have said....maybe he is back in NJ with Shero because Shero has the confidence in his own abilities to not be threatened and instead build an amazing team with someone. Remember too......Pitsburgh fired Shero last April, but hung onto Bylsma for months.....hanging him out to dry as other teams filled their coaching needs, THEN they fired him. You might see the same thing in Boston this year. Dirty Pool. I would love for someone to take the same interest in Babcock and let everyone know his history and performance measures, as well as the types of players he had success with. This does seem like a pretty big sell, I'm not sure I'm buying yet. :) Drane, you're making a big deal about the fastest coach to 200/250 wins. Anyone want to look to see how many first-time NHL coaches get handed the keys to the previous year's SCF finalist? I'm not sure, but I know a local fella handed the keys to a team after the previous year's GM and Coach of the Year got fired......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm not sure, but I know a local fella handed the keys to a team after the previous year's GM and Coach of the Year got fired......... Are you really trying to equate the 96-97 Sabres (who lost to Philly 1-4 in the 2nd round) with Pittsburgh? That's a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks for the discussion. I watch the 24/7 series every year and whether or not I truly can profile someone in short order.....there was enough info there to make me really like the guy. I had no idea how analytical he was until I started really digging. I think this guy is a tireless worker, a student of the game, and is always looking for an edge. I also think he is a good hearted guy that likes to have fun. The posterboy for Work Hard / Play Hard. In fact, if anything is truly keeping him an under the radar guy for current interviews, it's probably that some GM's are scared because he is so smart, motivated and balanced. Darcy would never hire this guy. I "could" see Tim Murray doing it. Like some have said....maybe he is back in NJ with Shero because Shero has the confidence in his own abilities to not be threatened and instead build an amazing team with someone. Remember too......Pitsburgh fired Shero last April, but hung onto Bylsma for months.....hanging him out to dry as other teams filled their coaching needs, THEN they fired him. You might see the same thing in Boston this year. Dirty Pool. I would love for someone to take the same interest in Babcock and let everyone know his history and performance measures, as well as the types of players he had success with. What? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Are you really trying to equate the 96-97 Sabres (who lost to Philly 1-4 in the 2nd round) with Pittsburgh? That's a stretch. Not really, because I think the results going forward speak for themself. Just throwing the reality of a swarm of sandflies at you as you ride that bike too close to the lake........ What? :huh: The guy played the game. He works as hard as anyone in preparation. He's had more success than anyone in his coaching tenure. He is relaxed enough to be a TV analyst, has no problem questioning his coach when he is a player, and is always looking to improve himself. He's also only 44 years old. My guess is that 10 years from now, wherever Bylsma ends up, he will be doing so in a Coach with Roster Power position, as a GM, or both.....but with another Cup or 2+ in tow with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't think that the reason he hasn't gotten interviews is because GMs are intimidated by his awesomeness. I am very intrigued by how Bylsma does in his next gig, now. As other's have said, this is a great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't think that the reason he hasn't gotten interviews is because GMs are intimidated by his awesomeness. I am very intrigued by how Bylsma does in his next gig, now. As other's have said, this is a great thread. Certainly full of plenty of useful information and discussion. Bylsma would work for me, but I have a pretty big list of coaches I would be alright with landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thank you GoDD for the insightful posts and to others with some strong counter points. A great discussion indeed. I won't pretend to know enough about any of the candidates to have any real input for the discussion. All I hope is that Mr. Murray is as diligent in his research into filling the coaching vacancy with the Sabres and that he makes an intelligent and well thought out choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 This is a great year to need a coach. Are you kidding me? I wish Torts was my dad, and even I have to put him at #4 or #5 right now........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Keeping this thread up high, because the CHL lesson of keeping your chin up apparently doesn't apply to coaches. FWIW, I would be happy with a coach we referred to as "Disco Dan". But since GoDD is opening this up to other coaches...while I'm still not convinced Disco Dan is a Murray "I'll meet you at the bar after the game, Tim" kind of guy, I am definitely certain Torts and Murray would get along as well as Nolan and Murray got along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AyZ6DJaHNM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 This is a great year to need a coach. Well said. This is why I am not sweating the Babcock decision. That said, I want nothing to do with Tortorella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AyZ6DJaHNM Come'on Y'all!!! Click on the link and feel The Heat!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have no interest in the Disco Daffodil. If he does become our coach, I will refer to him exclusively as Hot Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have no interest in the Disco Daffodil. If he does become our coach, I will refer to him exclusively as Hot Daniel. :) I am feelin' HOT.....DISCO HEAT hot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I like Disco Dan. I think he will be a very good coach for the Sabres, should they hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Julien and Torts, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 :) I am feelin' HOT.....DISCO HEAT hot!!! I'm glad somebody here is excited by us not getting Babs. Didn't somebody report that we had spoken to Bylsma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) I don't get the intense passion over coaches before we get to know them. I mean some have great track records or personalities that push them higher than others on the personal preference list. But really it's about how their personality and philosophy fits with the organization and the room. Drane has done a nice job of building a case for Disco Dan, but really, how am I supposed to know if Deboer is a better fit than Richardson is better than some assistant in the west, or some guy in the AHL? Edited May 20, 2015 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Head to Head '08 Bylsma Wins Stanley Cup 40 points in 25 regular season games Babcock Loses Stanley Cup 112 points in 82 games Bylsma +1 '09 Bylsma Loses in conference semis 101 points Babcock loses in conference semis 102 points Babcock +1 '10 Bylsma Loses in conference quarters 106 points Babcock loses in conference semis 104 points Babcock +4 '11 Bylsma loses in conference quarters 108 points Babcock loses in conference quarters 102 points Bylsma +1 '12 Bylsma loses in conference finals 72 points Babcock loses in conference semis 56 points Bylsma +5 '13 Bylsma loses in conference semis 109 points Babcock loses in conference quarters 93 points Bylsma +6 Bylsma outfinished Babcock 4 out of 6 years in the playoffs in regard to draft pick positioning for a little more than 1 pick worse. Blysma outfinished Babcock in playoff performance 3-2-1 Blysma outfinished Babcock in the regular season 5 out of 6 times I thank everyone for continuing to bring up valid points of concern. I will do my best to look into them. Hmm that is very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ya know, I really thought we were getting Babcock, so I didn't bother to fully lay out why I'm not a big Bylsma fan. Now I feel obligated to do so :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I don't get the intense passion over coaches before we get to know them. I mean some have great track records or personalities that push them higher than others on the personal preference list. But really it's about how their personality and philosophy fits with the organization and the room. Drane has done a nice job of building a case for Disco Dan, but really, how am I supposed to know if Deboer is a better fit than Richardson is better than some assistant in the west, or some guy in the AHL? I've said that from the begining. Nobody took on the challenge of making a case for any other coach. There was the regurgitated Babcock talk....and when that was questioned, you were a jerk, pushing an agenda, yadda yadda. I want to know more about DeBoer and Richardson........and anyone else someone feels excited about. It ain't coming from here, and it ain't coming from the $$$ Paid Media. It's easier to cash a check and cahoot about a band or a sitcom..... (GoDD Disclaimer....sarcastic joke not aimed at message board but clowns making money to "cover" the team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I wish I had the time, because I have all of a sudden become interested in MacLean. I would like to re-visit the season leading up to his firing. Apparently, after he won the Jack Adams he became a douche to the players (SOURCE). As a player he was a goal scorer, and apparently a tough guy. That's what the Sabres need, if he can teach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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