Hoss Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 You're slowly changing!!!!!! Seriously I just went on a rant about disrespecting others' bodies and you're watching me change? Ugh. This board is infested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassValleyGreg Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) The thing I may be looking forward to most in 2015/16 is Jack's ability to enter the zone cleanly, especially on the PP. He earned this responsibility almost immediately on USA and looked special in gaining the zone, retaining possession and setting up the play. Many times it was his speed on display - dashing in, stopping, and feeding it back to the blueline. Other times it was his quick hands and creativity. This skill set alone - something we may not have had since Myers Year 1 and the Brian Campbell years - will improve our PP dramatically. No more depending solely on the dump and chase and hope (thank God). Edited May 18, 2015 by GrassValleyGreg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Reminds me a lot of Peter Forsberg...fast, big, strong, impossible to get of the puck, great forechecker, backchecker, defensive stickwork...point+ a game player... If he can be Forsberg like, we are in for a real treat... Edited May 18, 2015 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Reminds me a lot of Peter Forsberg...fast, big, strong, impossible to get of the puck, great forechecker, backchecker, defensive stickwork...point+ a game player... If he can be Forsberg like, we are in for a real treat... I had a discussion with a junior coach the other day who had been watching Eichle and he asked me who I would compare Eichel to. I said his strength on the puck and vision remind me of Forsberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Froppa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) I had a discussion with a junior coach the other day who had been watching Eichle and he asked me who I would compare Eichel to. I said his strength on the puck and vision remind me of Forsberg. Wow.... Forsberg without all the injuries would be awesome. I don't see him as being as physical though but if that keeps him from being on the IR list every year, I'm good with that. Edited May 18, 2015 by jsb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 The more I see and read about Jack Eichel the more i feel like the Sabres won the lottery by finishing 2nd. Let the Oilers follow conventional wisdom while the Sabres pick the best player in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I had a discussion with a junior coach the other day who had been watching Eichle and he asked me who I would compare Eichel to. I said his strength on the puck and vision remind me of Forsberg. There's a difference from 25 years ago though. Eichel has overtrained, and although he is very strong for his age and size, back in the day guys came into their own. on their own for the most part. Forsberg was the best player in the league for a good 2 year stretch much like Jagr was with the same skillset for a few year, even playing at the same time as Mario. We just don't know what Eichel's body will develop into. I'm a little nervous that he may dominate this level as an 18 year old, and be a good player at the NHL level. I don't want Forsberg even mentioned in the ballpark right now. Do we not remember the Cody Hodgson works out with Gary Roberts and is captain of Team Canada? I have much higher hopes for Eichel, but he has to earn being the next Mike Ricci let alone the next Pete Forsberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 There's a difference from 25 years ago though. Eichel has overtrained, and although he is very strong for his age and size, back in the day guys came into their own. on their own for the most part. Forsberg was the best player in the league for a good 2 year stretch much like Jagr was with the same skillset for a few year, even playing at the same time as Mario. We just don't know what Eichel's body will develop into. I'm a little nervous that he may dominate this level as an 18 year old, and be a good player at the NHL level. I don't want Forsberg even mentioned in the ballpark right now. Do we not remember the Cody Hodgson works out with Gary Roberts and is captain of Team Canada? I have much higher hopes for Eichel, but he has to earn being the next Mike Ricci let alone the next Pete Forsberg. Forsberg didn't come in the league until he was 21, IIRC. All I said was his strength on the puck (mostly the protection part), and vision reminded my of Forsberg. There are limits to comparisons. Eichel is RH, of course. You aren't going to see Forsberg numbers out of Eichel IMO. The league is a much different place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Forsberg didn't come in the league until he was 21, IIRC. All I said was his strength on the puck (mostly the protection part), and vision reminded my of Forsberg. There are limits to comparisons. Eichel is RH, of course. You aren't going to see Forsberg numbers out of Eichel IMO. The league is a much different place. I'm not talking about numbers, I'm talking what you are talking. The two best players I have seen are Jagr and Forsberg. Along the wall at times they looked like the 30 year old drunken uncle flicking his nephews away during the 4th of July family football game. Vision is a different thing. I have a hard time knowing what goes into it. Back in the day, a lot of guys could anticipate where someone would be, or a defender not be, and feed the puck there without looking, or sneak in waiting for an opportunity. These days defenses are so tight that you don't see that. I would define vision as a different animal now. Girgensons has it. He takes shots that 99% wouldn't, and gets results. Today, vision is almost being a contrarian on the ice. Steve Ott has vision these days. To me, Gilmour was my favorite of the old guard that had true vision.....but Lindy didn't agree. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Reminds me a lot of Peter Forsberg...fast, big, strong, impossible to get of the puck, great forechecker, backchecker, defensive stickwork...point+ a game player... If he can be Forsberg like, we are in for a real treat... I had a discussion with a junior coach the other day who had been watching Eichle and he asked me who I would compare Eichel to. I said his strength on the puck and vision remind me of Forsberg. Holy mackerel Forsberg was freaking awesome. If he'd been a Sabre, he'd have been, at worst, the 2nd-best alltime Sabre forward, with a very strong argument for a higher slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Holy mackerel Forsberg was freaking awesome. If he'd been a Sabre, he'd have been, at worst, the 2nd-best alltime Sabre forward, with a very strong argument for a higher slot. That 1991 draft could be a good sign of things to come for the Sabres. In '91 Lindros was the Connor McDavid of the that time, look at what happened, the best player in that draft was picked 6th behind such all-time greats greats as Scott Lachance, Aaron Ward and Pat Fallon. Things just don't always turn out as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Even The Canadian Media is starting to get EichelMania. http://www.tsn.ca/video/eichel-a-superstar-in-the-making-1.285224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Even The Canadian Media is starting to get EichelMania. http://www.tsn.ca/video/eichel-a-superstar-in-the-making-1.285224 One of those guys says Forsberg too. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who gets to claim this as their avatar first? Go! Where did they actually sell that? I live an 100 minute drive from the Mmarena and they sent me the draft preview w/ the stupid "Connor McSavior" cover. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Good article; seems like a good kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Tim Murray has gotten 2 calls about moving out of #2 slot. They were short calls. He seems to indicate that he will pick 2. He is very happy about picking Jack Eichel and so is his scouting staff. Called picking #2 "The easiest decision I might make" "I am not going to call Peter (Chiarella). I may make some calls on the 21st pick here" Tim Murray "I would like to move up from 21 to get a better prospect or use 21 to get a young prospect from another team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 @JoeYerdon: Murray about ran out of superlatives describing Jack Eichel’s play at Worlds. Does he post here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 BU Men's Hockey @TerrierHockey 5m5 minutes ago Congrats to Jack Eichel on being named the @usahockey College Player of the Year! #ProudtoBU http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/517066?referrer_id=1093254 … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Where did they actually sell that? I live an 100 minute drive from the Mmarena and they sent me the draft preview w/ the stupid "Connor McSavior" cover. :angry: All subscribers got the McDavid version. All US newsstands had the Eichel version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Tim Murray has gotten 2 calls about moving out of #2 slot. They were short calls. He seems to indicate that he will pick 2. He is very happy about picking Jack Eichel and so is his scouting staff. Called picking #2 "The easiest decision I might make" "I am not going to call Peter (Chiarella). I may make some calls on the 21st pick here" Tim Murray "I would like to move up from 21 to get a better prospect or use 21 to get a young prospect from another team" Was he on GR or is this from an article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Was he on GR or is this from an article? He was on GR about an hour ago. Worth a listen. Talked about Babcock, other coaches, Eichel, some other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 He was on GR about an hour ago. Worth a listen. Talked about Babcock, other coaches, Eichel, some other stuff. It was a really good interview...Murray was very open about a lot of things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 It was a really good interview...Murray was very open about a lot of things... Yup, he's one the few sports interviews I enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Buffalo News Road to the Draft: Jack Eichel "Eichel has never wasted time proving himself. As a 15-year-old member of the U.S. National Team Development Program, he stepped in and led the team in scoring despite being two years younger than most players. The next year at age 16, he led USA Hockey’s under-18 team. This season, Eichel walked onto the campus of Boston University as an untested freshman and walked off with the Hobey Baker award as the nation’s top collegiate player. He followed that by excelling at the world championships, his first competition against professional players." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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