Should Sam Stay or Should He Go Now?

[IKnowPhysics]

See poll. Have at it.

 

 

 

Optional soundtrack.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ

[Bob Malooga]

That's a hard question, because it all depends on him and how he looks in camp.

 

However, he is the #2 pick for a reason and would have been even if it were another team in that spot. I see no reason to send him back unless he looks completely lost, and we all know that just is not going to happen. I also see no reason to bring in guys like Brian Gionta, and NOT have Samson Reinhart around that guy every single day, like a shadow.

 

I think quite a few of the kids should be up in the NHL with those coaches and trainers...but there's no need to rush it.

 

(I do know one thing for sure...Rochester is going to be a lot of fun to watch this year, I kind of want season tickets.)

[Hoss]

I think he's ready. From what we've seen now: keep him. If something comes out in camp that really makes TM/TN say "he's not ready" then send him back.

 

I think it's likely he'll be around.

[dudacek]

Only two things can keep him out of the opening night lineup:

1) An inability to keep up physically with NHL men.

2) a much-improved Mikhail Girgorenko

Edited July 14, 2014 by dudacek

[Hoss]

Only two things can keep him out of the opening night lineup:

1) An inability to keep up physically with NHL men.

2) a much-improved Mikhail Girgorenko

 

Injury.

Disbanding of the Buffalo Sabres.

Disbanding of the NHL.

Kim Pegula not liking his style.

[Taro T]

I expect he'll stay up but would prefer to see him in junior as the lines become a real hound's breakfast without him in the lineup.

 

To paraphrase Maggie - it's no time to go wobbly now Timothy.

[SabresBillsFan]

I know people probably won't like this answer but I would like him to go one more year of junior and play in the WJC and then play full time next year. If we have come this far on the tank what's one final season to have a shot at two franchise building players!

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Injury.

Disbanding of the Buffalo Sabres.

Disbanding of the NHL.

Kim Pegula not liking his style.

 

You forgot chronic halitosis.

[wjag]

Send him down. Let him get a year or two of seasoning and meet his real team mates... Not the pretenders on the squad now.

[PASabreFan]

You forgot chronic halitosis.

 

Dr. Karamonukian can fix that. Sic.

[PASabreFan]

Unless he looks truly extraordinary, even generational, I'd lean toward sending him back down. It's a rare breed of cat who can look like he belongs in the NHL at 18, and do it in a toxic atmosphere. I wanted Grigorenko to stay up, and I'm colored by that experience. He wasn't ready/expectations were too high/his development was delayed.

 

Having said all that, I don't know Sam Reinhart from Sam Adams. My opinion might seem rather foolish after we see him in action.

[LGR4GM]

If he goes there will be trouble, but if stays it will be double.

[nfreeman]

I think TM & TN are leaning towards keeping him, but are open to the conclusion that he isn't ready and will send him down if they get there.

 

I need to see his 9-game tryout before I deliver my opinion on what they should do.

 

Certainly I would love to see him tear it up in that tryout and make it clear that he needs to stay.

[Doohickie]

My opinion matters not. I will watch and wait.

[Hoss]

My opinion matters not. I will watch and wait.

 

Oh come on. You could just play along. None of us claim to have opinions that matter when decision time comes, but it's fun to see what other fans think...

[drnkirishone]

If he goes there will be trouble, but if stays it will be double.

i just want you to know i am fighting the urge of a youtube link

[Derrico]

It was only one July scrimmage but reinhart did nothing last night that screams he's ready to play against men. He was very average during the game and a few camp invitees and late round picks looked better than the second overall pick on this night. I'm not overreacting as it's one event and training camp, exhibition games and likely a nine game tryout is where it will really count. Still, very disappointed in his effort last night. If he keeps it up I want him sent back rather than playing less than ten min a night and running into another grigo situation.

[Hoss]

I draw no conclusions or even generate any opinion that extends beyond the night when it comes to these scrimmages. They're fun little games, but they mean almost nothing.

[SabresBillsFan]

Wow I'm shocked just to hear people talk about these young players where 99% aren't ready yet. It's development camp. People expect these players to stand out like Mario or Wayne. Most players don't burst on the scene like McKinnon did last year but he was talked about many years before he was drafted. Settle down people there are a lot of very good young players coming they just need time to develop.

[Hoss]

Wow I'm shocked just to hear people talk about these young players where 99% aren't ready yet. It's development camp. People expect these players to stand out like Mario or Wayne. Most players don't burst on the scene like McKinnon did last year but he was talked about many years before he was drafted. Settle down people there are a lot of very good young players coming they just need time to develop.

 

Actually, most are deemed ready. 2nd overall picks, that is. Five of the last six have played immediately. Eight of the last eleven would become ten of the last eleven, but JVR took two years in college and Malkin couldn't get out of his contract for two years.

[deluca67]

I think TM & TN are leaning towards keeping him, but are open to the conclusion that he isn't ready and will send him down if they get there.

 

I need to see his 9-game tryout before I deliver my opinion on what they should do.

 

Certainly I would love to see him tear it up in that tryout and make it clear that he needs to stay.

This.

 

After what this franchise did with Grigorenko, they need to tread carefully with Reinhart. Let Reinhart's play be the determining factor if he stays or heads back to junior.

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Keeping Samson up doesn't jive with the things Nolan has said about young players, and doesn't jive with the general statements Murray has made on player development.

 

Murray has played lip service to the possibility of keeping Reinhart here, but I think it's only that.

 

If the organization sticks to "the plan", we won't see Samson for two full seasons. Relatedly, we won't see Zadarov or Grigorenko for at least another full season. Player development is supposed to rule the day.

[Hoss]

The equation COMPLETELY changes when you're talking about a top 2-3 pick.

Keeping him up doesn't go against anything that has been said. They have never said that they'll move everybody at a snail's pace. All indications have been that they'll move players at THEIR pace based on what TM/TN think is their pace.

 

If Samson is ready he'll be here. He's a second overall pick so it is fair to expect him to be here. It's also fair to believe that he may not be like most high-end picks and may need a little more time.

[Byebye]

I would really like to see him in a sabres jersey this season. While I think he is ready talent wise, I'm a little worried he might not be big enough to defend himself quite yet. I could see it being a Drouin like scenario. I know he's shorter but at 6'1 I'd like to see him at 200 not 180. That being said, he's smart so maybe that will come into play. Hopefully we get to see him play some heavy minutes in exhibition.

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After seeing him in person, even among peers (or especially among peers), I think he is simply not physically ready for the NHL.