26CornerBlitz Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Bennett ranked No. 1: Real deal or fool’s gold? Gare Joyce - SportsNet When NHL Central Scouting Service released its preliminary list of players eligible for the 2014 NHL Draft on Monday, scouts working for the league reached a virtual consensus with regard to the top of its lists. “You can try to look too smart,” one NHL scouting director said. This was directed at CSS’s naming centre Sam Bennett of the Kingston Frontenacs as the No. 1 overall skater in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Now that sheds some light on things. Bennett is still where I thought he was. Top 10 but not top 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 You know if Edm drafts #1 as long as we have #2 we're fine. To be honest if the Oilers take Reinhart, that actually gives us the ability to ransom off Ekblad and still get a top 5 pick. Regardless, I'd trade players for 2015 1st rounders not 2014 1st rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 You know if Edm drafts #1 as long as we have #2 we're fine. To be honest if the Oilers take Reinhart, that actually gives us the ability to ransom off Ekblad and still get a top 5 pick. Regardless, I'd trade players for 2015 1st rounders not 2014 1st rounders. As I said before, I really think that's easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Now that sheds some light on things. Bennett is still where I thought he was. Top 10 but not top 5 Bennett has always been top five, and that article says that he is top five, not top one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Columbus, Winnipeg and Calgary all winning tonight certainly helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) You know if Edm drafts #1 as long as we have #2 we're fine. To be honest if the Oilers take Reinhart, that actually gives us the ability to ransom off Ekblad and still get a top 5 pick. I don't think i'd be the only one shocked if Edmonton didn't go with defense if they did get #1 again. As for Bennett- he was born in the same town as Connor McDavid, and both were linemates when they played on the Toronto Marlboros. Reuniting these 2 childhood friends would really end our "suffering". Also an FYI, the CHL Prospects game is this Wed night at 9pm on NHL Network. Dal Colle, Reinhart, Ekbald, Leon are all playing. Bennett is out due to a groin injury. Edited January 14, 2014 by Loyalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Convince the islanders to let us draft this year. We take Reinhart/kapanen - bennet . resign ott + Moulson 2015 if we are lucky we take Mcdavid or eichel. in 2016 we could have this line up, work your magic murray :P Moulson - Mcdavid - Reinhart/kapanen Bennet - Grigorenko - Girgensons Ennis - Hodgson- Foligno Ott - Larsonn - Flynn Erhoff - pysyk Ekblad myers - Mcnabb Zadorov - Risto x Mccabe Enroth Hackett <--- don't think the kid will make it. Ullmark and makarov will be breathing down his neck soon. btw have been looking up on bennet a bit, i wouldn't mind taking him over ekblad and reinhart. then again i might even consider taking Kapanen over ekblad and reinhart if you want real speed on your wing. Edited January 14, 2014 by Heimdall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I will vomit all over myself if this happens. The Feaster Bunny's last nest egg. Feaster was Calgary's GM. I got my Northwest Canadian hockey teams mixed up :doh: Heimdall how in the world do we end up with Ekblad, McDavid, and Rheinhart in that situation again? :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Feaster was Calgary's GM. I got my Northwest Canadian hockey teams mixed up :doh: Heimdall how in the world do we end up with Ekblad, McDavid, and Rheinhart in that situation again? :huh: And Bennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Feaster was Calgary's GM. I got my Northwest Canadian hockey teams mixed up :doh: Heimdall how in the world do we end up with Ekblad, McDavid, and Rheinhart in that situation again? :huh: crap meant to type myers instead of ekblad, Mcdavid we draft a year later with luck :P And Bennett. With the islanders pick offcourse Edited January 14, 2014 by Heimdall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Dan Marr from Central Scouting Service was on WGR 550 talking about this years prospects. Seems high on Bennett. Called him an "elite scoring warrior" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) The first 1:30 is kinda of an intro but after that it gets good. Someone this board still isn't really talking about but could easily be our Islander pick (I think the isles may defer if they can't get Ekblad) Michael Dal Colle is mentioned at the 2:00 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFo-Kza0BEQ&feature=youtu.be They also discuss Ekblad, Rienhart, Draisaitl and some others... Edited January 14, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Dan Marr from Central Scouting Service was on WGR 550 talking about this years prospects. Seems high on Bennett. Called him an "elite scoring warrior" Dan Marr of Central Scouting on WGR's Howard Simon Show <13:59> Edited January 14, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Something to keep in mind: Kris Baker @SabresProspects Last year, Nikita Zadorov was the 30th ranked NA skater on Central's midterm list. J.T. Compher was 20th. Dan Marr of Central Scouting on WGR's Howard Simon Show <13:59> "Sam Reinhart he is an exceptional talent with the puck. His hockey sense and IQ are probably the best in this draft class. His vision and his passing just stand out." Edited January 14, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Convince the islanders to let us draft this year. We take Reinhart/kapanen - bennet . resign ott + Moulson 2015 if we are lucky we take Mcdavid or eichel. in 2016 we could have this line up, work your magic murray :P Moulson - Mcdavid - Reinhart/kapanen Bennet - Grigorenko - Girgensons Ennis - Hodgson- Foligno Ott - Larsonn - Flynn Erhoff - pysyk Ekblad myers - Mcnabb Zadorov - Risto x Mccabe Enroth Hackett <--- don't think the kid will make it. Ullmark and makarov will be breathing down his neck soon. btw have been looking up on bennet a bit, i wouldn't mind taking him over ekblad and reinhart. then again i might even consider taking Kapanen over ekblad and reinhart if you want real speed on your wing. Ott is totally going to resign here if the plan is to put him on the 4th line. Are we paying him like a 4th liner, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Convince the islanders to let us draft this year. We take Reinhart/kapanen - bennet . resign ott + Moulson 2015 if we are lucky we take Mcdavid or eichel. in 2016 we could have this line up, work your magic murray :P Moulson - Mcdavid - Reinhart/kapanen Bennet - Grigorenko - Girgensons Ennis - Hodgson- Foligno Ott - Larsonn - Flynn Erhoff - pysyk Ekblad myers - Mcnabb Zadorov - Risto x Mccabe Enroth Hackett <--- don't think the kid will make it. Ullmark and makarov will be breathing down his neck soon. btw have been looking up on bennet a bit, i wouldn't mind taking him over ekblad and reinhart. then again i might even consider taking Kapanen over ekblad and reinhart if you want real speed on your wing. Why do I get the feeling that either Crosby or Malkin will miss a significant amount of time with an injury next season causing the Penguins to finish in 14th place and out of the playoffs. And with their 0.5% chance they win the Mc David Sweepstakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Jake Virtanen was tested on both his forward and backwards skating times today ahead of the Top Prospects game. He was tops in both categories for all players tested today. He also was 2nd in the fastest weave time with the puck. He has 42pts in 43gp this season and is a 5'11" RW ranked 9th by central scouting. If we end up with another first round pick in the middle somewhere he could be a great kid to target. He has a late 1996 b-day for this draft being just about 1 month away from being eligible for next years draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Jake Virtanen was tested on both his forward and backwards skating times today ahead of the Top Prospects game. He was tops in both categories for all players tested today. He also was 2nd in the fastest weave time with the puck. He has 42pts in 43gp this season and is a 5'11" RW ranked 9th by central scouting. If we end up with another first round pick in the middle somewhere he could be a great kid to target. He has a late 1996 b-day for this draft being just about 1 month away from being eligible for next years draft. Not another undersized winger. Isn't Ennis enough? Or do we consider him a centre now? Either way I don't want two guys in our top 6 under 6 foot. Not in today's NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not another undersized winger. Isn't Ennis enough? Or do we consider him a centre now? Either way I don't want two guys in our top 6 under 6 foot. Not in today's NHL. For the record, Virtanen is listed as 6'1 in multiple places, but these heights are often inflated. Height isn't the only indicator of size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Not another undersized winger. Isn't Ennis enough? Or do we consider him a centre now? Either way I don't want two guys in our top 6 under 6 foot. Not in today's NHL. Funny you should say this... according to CSS and ISS and EliteProspects 6'1" 208lbs is the new book on him. I took his original height from hockeydb. That said I disagree with the assessment that a 5'11" winger is undersized. There are multiple top line guys who are that size. Edited January 14, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Funny you should say this... according to CSS and ISS and EliteProspects 6'1" 208lbs is the new book on him. I took his original height from hockeydb. That said I disagree with the assessment that a 5'11" winger is undersized. There are multiple top line guys who are that size. But Tyler Ennis is 5'9, so please no more wingers under 6'5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) For the record, Virtanen is listed as 6'1 in multiple places, but these heights are often inflated. Height isn't the only indicator of size. It was actually amusing for me because right before he posted I was looking at different sights trying to ascertain Virtanen's actual size because I had just noticed the discrepancy. Either way I think weight is also a key factor when talking about size. The important thing to note about Virtanen is that he is very young for his class and he skates extremely well. That being said you should also note that he has 26goals in 43 games. Bennett has 26goals in 40 games. So while the all around points may not be there, Virtanen is scoring goals at a rate like the rest of his class. I have said it before, you need to find the guy who generates the offense and not the guy cashing in. Matt Moulson is a nice player but he cashes in, he doesn't generate. I am not sure what Virtanen is but something to keep in the back of your mind. Edited January 14, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Virtanen was described as a big power winger with an edge in everything I've read. He was ranked higher before the start of the year, then dipped because of crappy start offensively. Hopefully he is bouncing back Edited January 14, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why do I get the feeling that either Crosby or Malkin will miss a significant amount of time with an injury next season causing the Penguins to finish in 14th place and out of the playoffs. And with their 0.5% chance they win the Mc David Sweepstakes. Ahh yes the time-tested "Indianapolis Colts method". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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