nfreeman Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Another great one last night. What a bummer that there is only 1 left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Another great one last night. What a bummer that there is only 1 left. There are two left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Better Call Saul spinoff is official "Better Call Saul" will feature Bob Odenkirk as Goodman in a one-hour series that is being positioned as a prequel to "Breaking Bad," focusing on Goodman before he became the lawyer for chemistry-teacher-turned-criminal Walter White . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think Walt knew the police were on the line and that warning was an act to distance himself from Sklyer - to make it seem like she wasn't involved as a last act to save his family. That's exactly what I thought. "I BUILT THIS! ALL BY MYSELF!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This was the impression I got. He was crying when he did it, wasn't he? Yeah, pretty heart breaking. He has to build up to saying that Hank is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Good observations. But if that's the case Walt is again thinking he can control things he can't. Would investigators be that easily duped? They're going to look squarely at the car wash and say, "Hey, how did you afford that?" Maybe they could have fooled the IRS, but everyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Good observations. But if that's the case Walt is again thinking he can control things he can't. Would investigators be that easily duped? They're going to look squarely at the car wash and say, "Hey, how did you afford that?" Maybe they could have fooled the IRS, but everyone else? I would guess that like everything else WW has tried, it falls apart and his family ends up paying the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Good observations. But if that's the case Walt is again thinking he can control things he can't. Would investigators be that easily duped? They're going to look squarely at the car wash and say, "Hey, how did you afford that?" Maybe they could have fooled the IRS, but everyone else? They way the Whites played it, Skyler appears to have known about the money, but she was abused into keeping quiet by Walt. I would guess that like everything else WW has tried, it falls apart and his family ends up paying the price. The family would've paid a much worse price if he hadn't done it, and I don't really see the drawbacks to this particular plan. It could definitely still fall apart in the next to episodes, along with everyone and everything else. This is the song that plays when Walt is dung beetling (rolling his barrel). "Say goodbye to everyone. Goodbye to everyone." :cry: In the BB Insider Podcast, Vince Gilligan says that he told the musical director to turn this song off after 4 notes the first time he heard it. Now he says it's his favorite use of licensed music in the show. This scene also had an awesome call back to the very first shot of the show in the pilot. So that's where they landed. First shot of the show is Walt's pants flying off the RV through the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Update ... I'm reading none of your posts. On August fourth I said I'm in. I am now caught up through season five, episode 8. That's with two weeks in Paris! Only this season to go. Awesome ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Thats setting up nicely for the final episode. I just hope Walt gets those racist scumbags that have his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Thats setting up nicely for the final episode. I just hope Walt gets those racist scumbags that have his money. The racism is really the least of their problems. Drug-running and murdering -- specifically murdering a mother and leaving her body for her son to find this episode. Not to mention threatening an infant in front of her mother. At this point, the swastika tattoos are practically quaint compared to the rest of the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Thats setting up nicely for the final episode. I just hope Walt gets those racist scumbags that have his money. Not gonna happen, IMHO. The whole point of the show is that everything he planned has turned to poo-poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Not gonna happen, IMHO. The whole point of the show is that everything he planned has turned to poo-poo. Probably but I'm still pulling for Walter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Meth labs blow up sometimes, right? Might be a fitting ending. Bonnie and Clyde go over the cliff together. I kind of like how the show has become so dark and unsavory, it feels like it's time to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 The Nazis are going down. Heisenberg has been dormant the entire season (save for tread lightly and the confession). Granite State took this to its logical conclusion and made Walt afraid and pathetic in the penultimate episode. Him getting motivated by Gretchen and Elliot stating that Walt had nothing to do with Gray Matter (other than naming it) was an awesome twist. Remember that in Walt's mind the company is founded on his work, and Gretchen and Elliot are enjoying the good life with his son's birthright. I could see Lydia surviving, similar to the bad guy living in Scarface (which Villigain has stated over and over is an influence for the show), but the Nazis are done. Villains like them have always been disposed of in the past (Tuco, the gangbangers who killed Tomas, the cousins, Don Eladio). Some combination of Walt and Jesse will take down the Nazis and the ricin is for Gretchen and Elliot. Not gonna happen, IMHO. The whole point of the show is that everything he planned has turned to poo-poo. Every time somebody underestimates Walt they wind up dead. Krazy 8, Amellio, Tuco, Mike, and now Jack is the last domino to fall. Walt's plans turn to poo-poo, but that's always in reference to hiding it from his family, who ultimately ended up turning him in when he couldn't hide it anymore. As far as coming out on top in the meth industry, Walter White is the Michael Jordan of murder and drug king-pinnery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 The Nazis are going down. Heisenberg has been dormant the entire season (save for tread lightly and the confession). Granite State took this to its logical conclusion and made Walt afraid and pathetic in the penultimate episode. Him getting motivated by Gretchen and Elliot stating that Walt had nothing to do with Gray Matter (other than naming it) was an awesome twist. Remember that in Walt's mind the company is founded on his work, and Gretchen and Elliot are enjoying the good life with his son's birthright. I could see Lydia surviving, similar to the bad guy living in Scarface (which Villigain has stated over and over is an influence for the show), but the Nazis are done. Villains like them have always been disposed of in the past (Tuco, the gangbangers who killed Tomas, the cousins, Don Eladio). Some combination of Walt and Jesse will take down the Nazis and the ricin is for Gretchen and Elliot. Every time somebody underestimates Walt they wind up dead. Krazy 8, Amellio, Tuco, Mike, and now Jack is the last domino to fall. Walt's plans turn to poo-poo, but that's always in reference to hiding it from his family, who ultimately ended up turning him in when he couldn't hide it anymore. As far as coming out on top in the meth industry, Walter White is the Michael Jordan of murder and drug king-pinnery. Well, I think the Nazis -- i.e. a representation of pure evil -- are going to sail away with the money and with few or no casualties. Again, I think the whole point of the show is that there is no dipping into the evil jar in limited doses with happy results -- that's why the great train robbery ended in a child getting killed. Walt becoming a murdering drug dealer devastated him and everyone around him. Once he decided to do evil -- even for what he thought was a good purpose -- the results were going to be all bad. It's hard to imagine a worse outcome for Walt's family than what's happened to them, it's hard to imagine a worse outcome for Jesse than what's happened to him, and it's hard to imagine a worse outcome for the Nazis (from the viewer's perspective) than them living happily ever after with Walt's $70MM. IMHO, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Well, I think the Nazis -- i.e. a representation of pure evil -- are going to sail away with the money and with few or no casualties. Again, I think the whole point of the show is that there is no dipping into the evil jar in limited doses with happy results -- that's why the great train robbery ended in a child getting killed. Well said. And that's why Jesse went nuts in the back of the car — he had pulled the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Well said. And that's why Jesse went nuts in the back of the car — he had pulled the trigger. I'm kinda expecting Jesse's resolution to be that he'll be locked in the cage cooking for the Nazis indefinitely, unable to attempt escape (via suicide or otherwise) because the Nazis will kill Brock if he does. Separately: this is pretty good: http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/23/last-nights-breaking-bad-featured-a-classic-college-hockey-game-from-1998/ Edited September 23, 2013 by nfreeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) O.K.bitchesss. Time to get ready for the final episode. Edited September 30, 2013 by bunomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I like it. I couldn't think of a better ending. It won't satisfy everyone and the end of these things never do but it was a damn sight better than the ending for the sopranos. Man I'm going to miss this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I like it. I couldn't think of a better ending. It won't satisfy everyone and the end of these things never do but it was a damn sight better than the ending for the sopranos. Man I'm going to miss this show. My Sundays won't be the same. Perfect ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yep. Pure elegance. Gonna miss this show a ton. Looking forward to the Better Call Saul prequal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yep. Pure elegance. Gonna miss this show a ton. Looking forward to the Better Call Saul prequal. The potential is there but it needs to steer way clear of BB territory. Hopefully Huel, Mikey Ehrmantrout and some others will be a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Really terrific ending. The whole episode was just beautifully shot. Most shows would kill for just one sequence as well done as the opening scene where Walt is hiding in the car and the police lights are flashing just outside. Walt's last talk with Skyler. Or just Walt saying goodbye to Holly. Or watching his son come home from school for the very last time. I don't know when we'll see something this special again. And Mad Men is on notice for its last 14 episodes now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 That might be the most satisfying final episode of a show I've ever scene. And at the end, even though I've never felt much of anything for Walt, I felt a little pity? Empathy? Not sure what, but it hit me a bit right in that final shot. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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