Weave Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ahhh... scotches. Yes without knowing your personal taste preference you might have to try them all. Scotch has four distinct regions that have very different taste profiles, so until you know which *type* you like best, it's tough to give a true recommendation. And then throw a blend like Dewars in the mix and you get a whole nuther flavor possibility too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Dewars is basically what got me started on the brown liquor. I haven't had it in years. Used to be the go-to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I realize they are scotches I just didn't want to limit myself. I'm looking forward to this ride. If you don't want to limit yourself, you might get more bang for your buck with the bourbon whiskys which are more widely available since they are from the US. My go to for a nicer pour at the bar right now is Blanton's, which you can usually notice if they have it from afar since it comes in an epcot type glass globe. Very smooth and high quality. Maker's Mark is much more recognizable name and is much sweeter. Eagle Rare is a good cheaper pour that most bars might have as well which comes from the Buffalo Trace distillery. And then throw a blend like Dewars in the mix and you get a whole nuther flavor possibility too. FWIW, most if not all of my knowledge on the subject has come from We've peaking my interest and making me go research for hours on end in the interwebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I like Bulleit's bourbon and rye. Dad's Hat is good too, but I think that runs a bit more. The Bulleits come in just under $30 (at the PA Liquor Control Board price), Dad's Hat is closer to $40. Edited January 22, 2016 by MattPie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I like Bulleit's bourbon and rye. Dad's Hat is good too, but I think that runs a bit more. All these might be pricey too, I haven't bought them lately and I usually don't worry too much about cost since I only buy a couple bottles a year. Last I checked Bulleit Rye was only $28 a bottle at the local Premier Spirits. That would definitely give you a different taste as the rye whiskeys are much different than bourbons. Mash is primarily Wheat v. Corn iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Last I checked Bulleit Rye was only $28 a bottle at the local Premier Spirits. That would definitely give you a different taste as the rye whiskeys are much different than bourbons. Mash is primarily Wheat v. Corn iirc. Most bourbons are corn (at least 51% by law), rye, and a touch of barley. A few bourbons substitute wheat for the rye. Rye whiskeys are at least 51% rye, some are as much as 95% rye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Most bourbons are corn (at least 51% by law), rye, and a touch of barley. A few bourbons substitute wheat for the rye. Rye whiskeys are at least 51% rye, some are as much as 95% rye. Corn v. Rye. My mistake. For some reason I was thinking Wheat=Rye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Rye Whiskey is my jam. Y'all got me jonesin to get home and have a tipple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'll admit it. I sip Seagrams 7 (neat or w/ice) often enough for me to say it's a thing I do. I've never not enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'll admit it. I sip Seagrams 7 (neat or w/ice) often enough for me to say it's a thing I do. I've never not enjoyed it. Try Wisers. Canadian Whiskey so it's along the same lines. About the same price range. Bit more flavor to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Last I checked Bulleit Rye was only $28 a bottle at the local Premier Spirits. That would definitely give you a different taste as the rye whiskeys are much different than bourbons. Mash is primarily Wheat v. Corn iirc. I went back and updated the post after looking up the prices at the PA Liquor web site, you're right the Bulleits are just under $30. Dad's hat is more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Rye Whiskey is my jam. it's the FUNK that does it. just in general, rye is a terrific grain. i love rye breads (and i cannot lie). the darker the better - i.e., pumpernickel, russian rye. rye grains in my beer? yes please. and, yes. rye whiskey/whisky for the motherfunkin' WIN. i had sworn off manhattans for a long time (okay, a short time) - i'd just lost my taste for them. until someone got me an ass kicking 100 proof rye. rittenhouse, maybe? i love rye. Edited January 22, 2016 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Been going through this thread for a bit. Now I'm off to the liquor store to see if I can find anything that piques my interest. If I can find Angels Envy I may go for that. Might try Larceny. But I'll have to find them first. Seriously, the shelves 'round here seem to be very standard: Wild Turkey, Makers, Evan Williams, Old Grand Dad. 1/5,750ml and handle. And then there are a thousand flavored moonshines that I don't think I'd ever care to try. We'll see how this goes. Hopefully I can report on something in the early AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Been going through this thread for a bit. Now I'm off to the liquor store to see if I can find anything that piques my interest. If I can find Angels Envy I may go for that. Might try Larceny. But I'll have to find them first. Seriously, the shelves 'round here seem to be very standard: Wild Turkey, Makers, Evan Williams, Old Grand Dad. 1/5,750ml and handle. And then there are a thousand flavored moonshines that I don't think I'd ever care to try. We'll see how this goes. Hopefully I can report on something in the early AM. Larceny is very good for such a low price point. The Mrs. got me a bottle for christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 it's the FUNK that does it. just in general, rye is a terrific grain. i love rye breads (and i cannot lie). the darker the better - i.e., pumpernickel, russian rye. rye grains in my beer? yes please. and, yes. rye whiskey/whisky for the motherfunkin' WIN. i had sworn off manhattans for a long time (okay, a short time) - i'd just lost my taste for them. until someone got me an ass kicking 100 proof rye. rittenhouse, maybe? i love rye. I love using Rye in my grain bill when brewing. Love Rye Beers.. love rye whiskeys. Rye bread... you're a good man Charlie Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I snagged a bottle of Larceny. Turns out they have a couple more bourbon that y'all have been talking about. Looks like I'll have 3 more to try. However the scotch wall was terribly bare. They didn't even have any of my favorite Macallan 10 year fine oak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 it's the FUNK that does it. just in general, rye is a terrific grain. i love rye breads (and i cannot lie). the darker the better - i.e., pumpernickel, russian rye. rye grains in my beer? yes please. and, yes. rye whiskey/whisky for the motherfunkin' WIN. i had sworn off manhattans for a long time (okay, a short time) - i'd just lost my taste for them. until someone got me an ass kicking 100 proof rye. rittenhouse, maybe? i love rye. I knew I liked you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Huh, seems to me I've become a lightweight. One glass of Larceny and I'm half in the bag. Now I admit, I don't have the sommelier skills that we've has. However, I do have a very sophisticated rating scale. It goes something like this. Like it. Don't like it. Larceny: Like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Huh, seems to me I've become a lightweight. One glass of Larceny and I'm half in the bag. Now I admit, I don't have the sommelier skills that we've has. However, I do have a very sophisticated rating scale. It goes something like this. Like it. Don't like it. Larceny: Like it. Well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Speaking of which, any sign of our Whiskey Bottle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Whiskey article from esquire.com: 10 Great Underrated Whiskeys Here's the link: http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/a36514/10-underrated-whiskeys/ The author goes into detail on why each whiskey listed is underrated, but if you just want to know which whiskeys made the list here they are: Evan Williams Black Label Buffalo Trace Old Grand-Dad 114 Wild Turkey Rare Breed Booker's Larceny George Dickel No. 12 High West Campfire Breuckelen 77 Whiskey (White Wax) Jameson Gold Reserve Has anyone tried all 10? Do you disagree with any that made the list? Dickel #12 is my go-to house whiskey, and so far I haven't found much reason to spend any more on a bottle unless it's a special occasion. THe same price as Jack Daniels and orders of magnitude better. Evan Williams makes it onto a lot of lists like this one, but I tried it and thought it was awful - that nasty petroleum burn in the back of your throat. It is truly cheap whiskey. I have never had the Old Grandad 114, but I have tried the original and Bonded versions, both of which are often cited as great bargain whiskeys, and I don't find them to be anything special. As for Wild Turkey, there's no reason to shell out for Rare Breed when the 101 is excellent bourbon and much cheaper. Often I can't find any Dickel around (for some reason it is weakly distributed in the North), so the dirty bird is usually plan B. High West is really nice stuff if you are splurging. Buffalo Trace is also excellent and very reasonably priced. For my money, of which there is not a lot, the best bargains I have found are Dickel #12, Old Forester (maybe the best value in whiskey), Wild Turkey 101, and Jim Beam Black. If you are going really cheap, I swear that Jim Beam white label is really not a bad bet - just put it on the rocks; it has great flavor if you cut the harshness a little. For good whiskey deals outside the bourbon vein, I like Canadian Club (unbelievably cheap for how smooth it is) and Bushmills (like a very light scotch, smooth and mild). I don't drink much scotch, because you really have to spend some bucks to get good quality. But I do like Oban and Glenlivet if your mom is buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Evan Williams makes it onto a lot of lists like this one, but I tried it and thought it was awful - that nasty petroleum burn in the back of your throat. It is truly cheap whiskey. I don't drink much scotch, because you really have to spend some bucks to get good quality. But I do like Oban and Glenlivet if your mom is buying. Agreed on the Evan Williams - I have not been able to make that work. And that's a first for me with that expression - a good 'un. I knew I liked you. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Is Angel's Envy available in Buffalo? I can not seem to find it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Is Angel's Envy available in Buffalo? I can not seem to find it..... Premier has it from time to time. Try their reserve room, maybe? There is a liquor store next to Dash's on Main St. in Clarence. I've seen it there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Is Angel's Envy available in Buffalo? I can not seem to find it..... You could always call and ask a store to order a bottle. Even the PA state-run places will at least listen if you have a request. I haven't tried it before, but I talked to one of the people at the store and as long as it isn't crazy they'll order it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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