JoDo Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 After the Rangers game, Vanek said, comparing that game to the Leafs game, "We didn't give 'em any freebies." I noticed that too. However, he could easily have been speaking from an overall defensive standpoint. I think one can (LGB) read into things what one wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET"S GO BUFFALO Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 The Sabres, and every other NHL team draft a goalie or two every year. Not in the Second Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 First off, IMO, if miller has a broken collar bone there would be no reason for him to be on the ice today or yesterday. Judging from the way he took the shot and the funny nature of those breaks, it makes sense. If it is a fracture of that bone, it is almost impossible to set and just needs to heal which would take a few weeks. Concussion just doesn't make sense because he takes pucks off the mask a couple times a week and no one whacked him upside the head because Weber would have beat them up.... so I am going with fractured collarbone. So with that being said, Enroth is agile and playing well but I would prefer that Miller backstop this team in the playoffs. The reality might be Enroth through the first round and into the second if it is a broken bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 After the Rangers game, Vanek said, comparing that game to the Leafs game, "We didn't give 'em any freebies." I already mentioned he said that but I don't take it the way you do. That blip is a start of a long sentence IIRC about two on one's etc that they need to not give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 LR says Miller is still day to day but will make the trip with the team. I'd say no concussion. They usually won't let you fly with a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I wouldn't mind a Patty hug. Me niether. :unsure: They do look like they have that "the whole world is alright" kind of quality, don't they? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET"S GO BUFFALO Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 First off, IMO, if miller has a broken collar bone there would be no reason for him to be on the ice today or yesterday. Judging from the way he took the shot and the funny nature of those breaks, it makes sense. If it is a fracture of that bone, it is almost impossible to set and just needs to heal which would take a few weeks. Concussion just doesn't make sense because he takes pucks off the mask a couple times a week and no one whacked him upside the head because Weber would have beat them up.... so I am going with fractured collarbone. So with that being said, Enroth is agile and playing well but I would prefer that Miller backstop this team in the playoffs. The reality might be Enroth through the first round and into the second if it is a broken bone. According to Sports Medicine.com and my own learnings on the human body an injury to the collar bone, even a fracture, would result in immediate pain and discomfort, swelling and bruising, and at least some difficult mobility of your arm. From my looks at Miller's play after the shot, either this is the toughest player I have ever seen or he did not fracture the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET"S GO BUFFALO Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I already mentioned he said that but I don't take it the way you do. That blip is a start of a long sentence IIRC about two on one's etc that they need to not give up. I apologized I took the quote out of context but it can be taken many ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 First off, IMO, if miller has a broken collar bone there would be no reason for him to be on the ice today or yesterday. Judging from the way he took the shot and the funny nature of those breaks, it makes sense. If it is a fracture of that bone, it is almost impossible to set and just needs to heal which would take a few weeks. Concussion just doesn't make sense because he takes pucks off the mask a couple times a week and no one whacked him upside the head because Weber would have beat them up.... so I am going with fractured collarbone. So with that being said, Enroth is agile and playing well but I would prefer that Miller backstop this team in the playoffs. The reality might be Enroth through the first round and into the second if it is a broken bone. If you ever broke your collar bone you'd know Miller did not. The pain is so bad. He would not be day to day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I apologized I took the quote out of context but it can be taken many ways I know. At first I thought he was talking about the Game Day program. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 According to Sports Medicine.com and my own learnings on the human body an injury to the collar bone, even a fracture, would result in immediate pain and discomfort, swelling and bruising, and at least some difficult mobility of your arm. From my looks at Miller's play after the shot, either this is the toughest player I have ever seen or he did not fracture the bone. In that case could it be bruised not broken? That would explain his absence but travel with thte team and how he finished the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 If you ever broke your collar bone you'd know Miller did not. The pain is so bad. He would not be day to day. thats why its probably just a bad bruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 After the Rangers game, Vanek said, comparing that game to the Leafs game, "We didn't give 'em any freebies." "Freebie" I hear uncontested shot in the slot that the D gave up. "Softie" I hear goaltender missed a routine save while thinking about dinosaurs, supermodels, the alien voices, or combo of all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 so the consensus is bruised collar bone? Concussion just seems total bs but hey I've been wrong on here before (gerbe yes, boyes no) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hecht out for the weekend and Grier out for tomorrow. per Hoppe. Kaleta might be back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 The NHL has a rule/statement that teams do NOT need to disclose nature of injuries to media, or anyone else in an effort to keep people from targeting said injured area on said injured player. If everyone in the NHL knew EXACTLY what was wrong with Miller, don't you think they'd be aiming there every time? say it is his collarbone, if I was Washington or Carolina, EVERY chance I had to shoot high on Miller, right at his chest or collarbone, I'd take it. But hey, that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET"S GO BUFFALO Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 The NHL has a rule/statement that teams do NOT need to disclose nature of injuries to media, or anyone else in an effort to keep people from targeting said injured area on said injured player. If everyone in the NHL knew EXACTLY what was wrong with Miller, don't you think they'd be aiming there every time? say it is his collarbone, if I was Washington or Carolina, EVERY chance I had to shoot high on Miller, right at his chest or collarbone, I'd take it. But hey, that's just me It is very different when a guy is not practicing or playing with an injury and when he is playing through an injury...many players on the team right now have undisclosed minor injuries but are still playing I guarantee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET"S GO BUFFALO Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 In that case could it be bruised not broken? That would explain his absence but travel with thte team and how he finished the game. Yeah more then likely it is more like a bruise then a fracture or break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Only update LR will give on Miller is that it's not a long term injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 LR says Miller is still day to day but will make the trip with the team. I'd say no concussion. They usually won't let you fly with a concussion. That is starting to sound more like, what that professional term, an ooowey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 According to Sports Medicine.com and my own learnings on the human body an injury to the collar bone, even a fracture, would result in immediate pain and discomfort, swelling and bruising, and at least some difficult mobility of your arm. From my looks at Miller's play after the shot, either this is the toughest player I have ever seen or he did not fracture the bone. I've had one. You ain't playing goalie with one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I've had one. You ain't playing goalie with one.. Heck you can't even wipe your arse with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Heck you can't even wipe your arse with one. But you can still ###### yourself under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I already mentioned he said that but I don't take it the way you do. That blip is a start of a long sentence IIRC about two on one's etc that they need to not give up. There's nothing really meaningful preceding that statement. At least not on the clip on WGR. I don't take it any way. I was just presenting the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 So this: But you can still ###### yourself under pressure. Has nothing to do with this: There's nothing really meaningful preceding that statement. At least not on the clip on WGR. I don't take it any way. I was just presenting the quote. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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