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I see what you are saying. I think my assumption also included that the the original bag would not have been discarded, but you are correct. If the protocol does not require that the original bag be kept as part of the evidence chain then it could be true. (That's what you were pointing out right?) I'm not there yet either (although I did hypothesize about that before). Still, I am kind of at the same point as sizzle. It seems plausible that the Mother found some way to try and discredit the initial reports about DNA by possibly suggesting that rape kit was tampered with. This is going to get a bit stranger before it becomes clear. The lawyers involved have the ability to act quickly whereas the DA has to be a bit more cautious. So, I am sure they will find something out. I love the accuser's lawyer quitting though. I mean, he pretty much said the mother cannot be trusted on the story of how she obtained the bag.

Despite the pathetic bickering going back and forth... which made it take far too long to get through this. Let's tackle the announcements and what they COULD mean. First, the existence of this evidence bag. If it is indeed authenticated as the lawyer claims then the assumption is that the kit was removed from the bag at some point. This leads us to the statement that all evidence is in custody and accounted for. Using that information we can only assume that the evidence in custody is not the initial rape kit. Now.. let's play detective. The evidence bag is dropped at the mother's door by someone who knows the evidence was tampered with. How do they know? Let's assume they are present when the kit is performed and they see something that's out of the ordinary. They find this bag but they don't want to inject themselves into this circus. They hope they are wrong, that someone screwed up the bag and discarded it and used a new one. So, I'll hold onto this bag, because you never know. The information about no DNA present gets let out and this person believes that they have the original bag. Drop it off anonymously at the door and see what happens. Now, onto how this happens in the first place. It's a great question. One has to assume that the original rape kit would show up evidence of the victim's DNA. So in order to substitute a separate rape kit that would contain the victim's DNA you would have to perform two at that moment and somehow perform one of them such that it would be assured to NOT show any DNA from Kane. I won't get into who would do this because people do stupid things all the time for stupid reasons (see putting saws in raw meat to break prisoners out of prison). I don't have information on what protocols used in the room at the time. Clearly there is going to be more than 1 person present. I assume someone from law enforcement should oversee the process but perhaps that is not required. Either way there has to be someone present at the time who can perform a rape kit that will show DNA evidence of the victim but NOT of Patrick Kane. This implies that someone is working for a favorable outcome for Kane (not working FOR Kane necessarily). Now, if the kit that is still in custody is the original. Then you have a situation where perhaps someone willfully created a second evidence bag. Why? Well, if you want to get crazy on ideas. Let's assume the victim knows a rape kit will be performed but not show anything (yes, this implies that the rape charge was premeditated). Then, she is working with someone at the hospital to create a situation where it might appear someone is tampering with evidence in FAVOR of Patrick Kane. If the rape kit that shows no DNA evidence is considered to be solid truth then it would hurt her chances of a conviction. However, if someone Kane can be perceived to have tampered with evidence (even if it can't be proven) then it changes things. Perhaps not criminally, but most probably in a civil lawsuit. Yep.. we're way out there now. So, why does Kane's attorney speak? Well, in either instance he wants to strongly portray that all evidence is still accounted for. He wants to underscore the story that shows his client is not guilty and that there is no evidence to indicate he had sex with the victim. If he knows evidence has been tampered with its in his interest to try and dissuade people from thinking it actually happened. If it is the opposite line of thinking then it is the case that he is attempting to discredit the finding of this bag as having meaning and thus keeping the sanctity of the original kit intact. This also helps his client. In the end, this shouldn't be too hard to track down. Most hospital employees are going to break down in the face of evidence against them and pressure. Law enforcement officials would be a tougher nut to crack but somewhere along the line some bit of handwriting or some procedural misconduct will likely be found. All I know is.. this is going to be one hell of a story no matter how it plays out.

I'm not a Seinfeldian.. but somehow I feel like this would be a Seinfeld thing. Is it?

Certainly I can expect that. I guess a better question would be.. why would the DA be inclined to provide anything of substance to those lawyers? However I think we can see now that this has to do specifically with the family and therefore it makes more sense their lawyer is commenting. I expect this to quickly make its way to L&O:SVU.

back and to the left back and to the left back and to the left You missed a few. just saying..

So how much involvement would the accuser's lawyer have in the matter of a criminal investigation? Why would her lawyer even be involved? Shouldn't it be the DA's office that would address this? Is there a civil suit that I am not yet aware of?

There is a much better version of Swords of a Thousand Men by a band called Skyclad. I posted that version in the original goal horn song thread. If they want to use that song they should really consider that version in my opinion. I have to give them credit of at least mocking up the goal horn to song for each candidate.

Exactly. He's already earned it. Everyone knows it including his teammates but there's a ton of respect for him not accepting it until the right time.

One of the things I noticed on the Eichel to Moulson goal was the play Girgensons makes on zone entry. He takes the hit but puts the puck out into play for Eichel to continue. Love players like that.

Not even close. You guess wrong. YAY! Real thinking applied! Everyone pay attention here. I can't predict how anyone is going to act, but it's their choice to not remain impartial. Thing is.. they'd still be wrong to do so. They might ultimately turn out to be right, but that doesn't prove their position now. He's accused of a crime. He's not charged with anything.

I would pay to see more of that.

Maybe was always a possibility. And any implication at this point that he did not would be just as irresponsible as any that he did. As for Kane at camp, he's not charged with anything. You speak of holding him out of camp because of the distraction the MEDIA might cause by having him there. That can be easily controlled. There is no way Kane should not be allowed at camp. The only thing, at this point, that Kane is guilty of is poor decision making on getting himself into this situation and the impacts it has on his teammates and family. However, plenty of people make those kinds of mistakes all day long.

Yea.. I expected him to pronounce it that way. Perhaps he was having fun? Perhaps he says it that way and others say it like pesser. Either way.. it was funny to hear.

It's a great interview... but my greatest take away on that interview is Pysyk's nickname... Pysser. aka PIsser.

http://www.tsn.ca/isles-cut-prospect-ho-sang-after-showing-up-late-1.362669 And that will be all for Mr. Ho-Sang. Kid is his own worst enemy.

My ability to skate in the NHL has nothing to do with any player being able to play in the NHL. Many of us are capable of playing the game of relativity. In that, relative to other NHL players, a certain player may be judged for his ability to play the game. If you think about it even more, most coaches were not outstanding NHL players and some may never have played but they get to decide which players are NHL capable as well.

The perfect scenario? The Sabres thump Toronto during the season. The Sabres just miss the playoffs and win a lottery spot while Toronto drops to picking 4th or lower. Perhaps Subban at some point but I'm not sure he's controlling his temper enough yet.

Yep. Yep. Yep.

And in the AHL, he's necessary. He's fine in there as the 3rd/4th line guy. You can't tell me the rest of those guys are worth anything more. Well put. Incredibly well put.

Beside it being so much improved over NHL 15. Fired it up last night with my son. We played as Buffalo, of course. First opponent, randomized turned up as San Jose. Sabres win 11-3. Moulson and ROR had hat tricks. :) Love the game... EASHL for the rest of the night.

I can't understand why anyone would have angst towards Ellis. He's a great influence on players. He's the kind of player you need around younger kids. He's got a great attitude and work ethic and regardless of his abilities he never stops giving all he has on the ice.

I read somewhere recently that one league (NFL?) is considering color vs. color uniforms when they are not too similar. The concept that light and dark were developed to handle B&W television and that today it's not really needed. Could be good in the NHL as well. Some teams would remain too similar and you'd need white sweaters.. but having a blue versus nashville gold or carolina red wouldn't be bad. Then again.. color blind players might have a problem with it.

Not sure how I missed this thread the whole time.. but.. Mr. Robot has to be one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. My only concern is that it progressed too quickly and the second season will devolve into traditional run of the mill story telling and plot lines. The ending was fantastic and not at all unexpected. I've got ideas on the character progression of the main character in season 2. Kind of an enhancement on an idea introduced in the first season. It'll be complex, that's for certain. In fact, I should go back and watch the show again to see if I can predict it. That's about all the TV I watch.. other things look interesting but I never bother to get involved with them.

Roster flexibility trumps talent in all but your top players. Ristolainen is the top player. McCabe is not. He will be in Rochester and be used as the injury call up.

Hmm.. so there was some discussion back awhile about the whole porn and violence thing. https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/10/porn-viewers-hold-more-egalitarian-views Just posting this for discussion. I will freely admit I've not looked into it any more than scanning.