Jason Zucker Injury---He's back! Yes Back! As In Not In Line Up at end of last game...but now BACK in line up

[bob_sauve28]

No word yet on severity of injury but this is not good news. He is a solid vet who scores. God speed to an early return 

 

 

Edited 13 minutes ago by bob_sauve28

[Pimlach]

Zucker is one of the few that doesn’t get rattled.  He still has the ability to score and will be needed if this team is going to progress. 

[matter2003]

Are these players made of glass on this team? 

Literally have one dude seriously injuring himself on a faceoff where nobody touches him and now Zucker hurts himself on probably the most innocuous check you'll ever see.

Can the Sabre players get an NHL approval to wear bubblewrap?

Edited yesterday at 01:45 PM by matter2003

[tom webster]

4 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Are these players made of glass on this team? 

Literally have one dude seriously injuring himself on a faceoff where nobody touches him and now Zucker hurts himself on probably the most innocuous check you'll ever see. Can the Sabre players get an NHL approval to wear bubbles?

For whatever reason, injuries appear to be up not just league wide, but professional sports wide. Take a gander at the NFL’s injured reserve list.

Its why depth might be the single biggest attribute amongst the league’s elite.

[matter2003]

Just now, tom webster said:

For whatever reason, injuries appear to be up not just league wide, but professional sports wide. Take a gander at the NFL’s injured reserve list.

Its why depth might be the single biggest attribute amongst the league’s elite.

That list is always long in the NFL, people only think it's more because certain types of injuries have increased but others have decreased. Overall that hasn't been much change.

 

[zow2]

Looked like his left arm...wrist, elbow, shoulder? who knows.   Hopefully nothing too bad but I'm expecting to hear the dreaded "week to week" prognosis.  If he's back in the lineup anytime before mid-November I'd consider that a win.

[LGR4GM]

Guess Östlund ain't going anywhere soon. 

[Pimlach]

14 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Looked like his left arm...wrist, elbow, shoulder? who knows.   Hopefully nothing too bad but I'm expecting to hear the dreaded "week to week" prognosis.  If he's back in the lineup anytime before mid-November I'd consider that a win.

I think he bent his left wrist, it may have curled under too much, from the contact and followed by the pushing off.  

Edited yesterday at 02:09 PM by Pimlach

[shrader]

I thought shoulder last night, but after watching that again, he's not favoring that at all as he leaves.  It has to be something forearm/wrist.

[That Aud Smell]

40 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Are these players made of glass on this team? 

They're not, no.

1 minute ago, shrader said:

I thought shoulder last night, but after watching that again, he's not favoring that at all as he leaves.  It has to be something forearm/wrist.

Yep. Which sucks because if he fractured something, then we're looking at 6-8 weeks.

[TheAud]

41 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Are these players made of glass on this team? 

Next guy being called up from Rochester:

[matter2003]

6 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

They're not, no.

Yep. Which sucks because if he fractured something, then we're looking at 6-8 weeks.

Maybe not, but just as fragile.

[That Aud Smell]

Who's a solid/scoring winger in Rochester? ... Rosen? 

2 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Maybe not, but just as fragile.

oh ya, for sure. wtf, boys. why are you always getting injured.

[Drag0nDan]

7 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Who's a solid/scoring winger in Rochester? ... Rosen? 

oh ya, for sure. wtf, boys. why are you always getting injured.

I believe rosen was injured last night as well.  

[ShadowOnTheDoor]

49 minutes ago, tom webster said:

For whatever reason, injuries appear to be up not just league wide, but professional sports wide. Take a gander at the NFL’s injured reserve list.

Its why depth might be the single biggest attribute amongst the league’s elite.

Players are bigger (in some cases, certainly in Football), stronger, faster, with technological advancements in equipment that accentuates these factors. The human body - even those as developed as a professional athlete -  isn't made to constantly collide or turn on a dime at high rates of speed.  My doomsday thought is that Football as we know it will eventually become extinct or far more watered down than it already is.  

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, ShadowOnTheDoor said:

Players are bigger (in some cases, certainly in Football), stronger, faster, with technological advancements in equipment that accentuates these factors. The human body - even those as developed as a professional athlete -  isn't made to constantly collide or turn on a dime at high rates of speed.  My doomsday thought is that Football as we know it will eventually become extinct or far more watered down than it already is.  

Football is already something not as we once knew. 

[ShadowOnTheDoor]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Football is already something not as we once knew. 

Agreed. It's only going to get worse. 

[That Aud Smell]

12 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

I believe rosen was injured last night as well.  

damn. do you have a link?

[Porous Five Hole]

16 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

I believe rosen was injured last night as well.  

 

4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

damn. do you have a link?

Rosen is ok. Came back and played rest of game. Took a knee.

[That Aud Smell]

3 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Rosen is ok. Came back and played rest of game. Took a knee.

ah, phew. i mean i think "phew."

i'm more worried about zucker still?

can rosen supply some of what will be missing when zucker misses time?

[darksabre]

1 hour ago, tom webster said:

For whatever reason, injuries appear to be up not just league wide, but professional sports wide. Take a gander at the NFL’s injured reserve list.

Its why depth might be the single biggest attribute amongst the league’s elite.

I have a suspicion it's because players are training too much. 

There was a story going around a while back about how Olivia Reeves, Team USA weightlifter, trains like half as much as other weightlifters while out-performing them. 

[Porous Five Hole]

1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said:

ah, phew. i mean i think "phew."

i'm more worried about zucker still?

can rosen supply some of what will be missing when zucker misses time?

I am also worried about Zucker because he is hard to replace. He’s one of the adults in the room and the Sabres need that.

This coaching staff will just slap Krebs onto the third line and bemoan injuries. But to your question, Rosen can supply Zucker replacement level play on the PP and that’s about it. 

[Drag0nDan]

33 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

damn. do you have a link?

It's rochester so just a tweet that he left the game early and went to the locker room.  I can probably dig it up, but its far from official so probably not worth sharing.  

11 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I am also worried about Zucker because he is hard to replace. He’s one of the adults in the room and the Sabres need that.

This coaching staff will just slap Krebs onto the third line and bemoan injuries. But to your question, Rosen can supply Zucker replacement level play on the PP and that’s about it. 

I'd say kozak over krebs.  Krebs seemed to kill that line against montreal.  

[Drag0nDan]

36 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

 

Rosen is ok. Came back and played rest of game. Took a knee.

Well thats good, who'd have thought he'd need to be called up by the 8th game.  

If Zucker misses time thats like... 1/3 of the salary cap payroll tied up in injuries right now.  

[matter2003]

35 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I have a suspicion it's because players are training too much. 

There was a story going around a while back about how Olivia Reeves, Team USA weightlifter, trains like half as much as other weightlifters while out-performing them. 

I agree with this, and also with the WAY they are training. It used to be that players played whatever sport was in season. Football, basketball, baseball, etc... all of them require slightly different skills and movements so you are building up different areas in ways that you aren't in other sports, plus you are giving some areas more of a rest.

Now, players focus on the same sport from a young age all year round many times, which tends to hurt them from a development standpoint often times and also from an injury standpoint since you are adding much more wear and tear to the same areas over and over again non-stop over the course of your youth and then as a professional.  Then training has become year round as well, so even in the off-season, you are still doing significant work.  While that helps make them stronger, faster and more explosive, it also puts miles on the tires and eventually, those tires wear out.  The human body only has but so many repetitions in it of any movement, so the more you do as you are younger non-stop all year round and then during the off-season, the more likely you are to have serious issues like ACL, Achilles, etc where it just has worn out over time and needs to be replaced. The one good thing is that these seem to be so good these days, that often times players are coming back ready to go without much drop-off anymore.