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2 minutes ago, mphs mike said:

Well said, from a 63 yo that has been a fan since September 1970

Yep - i remember around 5 in the early 70s going to our seats 2nd row from top in the oranges. I was a “lap kid” for a lot longer than I should have been. This product is disgusting

Posted
11 hours ago, dudacek said:

Can’t argue, haven’t seen him play.

But he played 25 NHL games for a coach named Lindy Ruff, who used to use Andrew Peters 5 minutes a night, 50-odd games a year. He now coaches a team that has a reputation for not being able to handle the rough stuff, has no one like that in their system, and just signed Geertsen to a contract.

I have a feeling we’re going to see this guy this year.

What you predict, or what you prefer?

Prediction, there are rumblings that Lindy is not a Malenstyn Fan

Posted
36 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Prediction, there are rumblings that Lindy is not a Malenstyn Fan

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

Posted
9 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

No reason really. Probably cant be worse though. Doan has some scoring upside that none of the others do

Posted
49 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Prediction, there are rumblings that Lindy is not a Malenstyn Fan

It appears that last year's lower line remake is being disassembled into another this year's remake. Step forward and then step back. It's called the cha cha strategy. Back and forth and back and forth. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Prediction, there are rumblings that Lindy is not a Malenstyn Fan

I had no issues with Malenstyn’s play other than he doesn’t score much. He was high energy, good on puck battles, throwing his body around so no wonder Ruff doesn’t like him, he’s not a cream puff like Power.

 

Also where are you getting this information from?

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Prediction, there are rumblings that Lindy is not a Malenstyn Fan

 

37 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I had no issues with Malenstyn’s play other than he doesn’t score much. He was high energy, good on puck battles, throwing his body around so no wonder Ruff doesn’t like him, he’s not a cream puff like Power.

 

Also where are you getting this information from?

Well, Malenstyn did play 10:30 a night last year, by far the lowest of the leftover Sabre regulars

 

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

I think its inevitable that fans be skeptical of most things the Adams regime does because of their track record.

In terms of the 4th line, I wonder how much of last season was chicken and how much egg: did Lindy limit their usage because their play was disappointing, or was their play disappointing because Lindy limited their usage?

Lafferty's play surprised me. I liked his game as a Canuck, and he seemed to be a decent, energetic role player in his other stops. He was a non-entity here — he didn't play like I remembered him playing — and I have no idea why.

My expectations of Danforth this summer are kinda like my expectations for Lafferty last summer; that's who he's been, albeit maybe for a shorter period of time.

My expectations for Aube-Kubel were less. He'd never been a fulltime skater anywhere else and he wasn't young. Sometimes those guys land in the perfect spot and reel off a decent year. More times they don't. He didn't.

Doan is not like the others. He has excellent grinder qualities, but he's not some longshot minor league vet persevering on the margins of the NHL. He's a legitimate NHL prospect with a higher-end toolbox: a former high 2nd-rounder entering his 3rd year pro.

I posted this previously along with the note that Doan is two years older:

Career pro stats

  • Kulich NHL GP: 63 15/9/24
  • Doan NHL GP: 62 12/16/28
  • Kulich AHL GP: 123 53/41/94
  • Doan AHL GP: 104 40/38/78

There's an upside with this one

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Posted
1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

There is some analytics based data that shows Doan and Danforth are better at recovering dump ins and have better fancy stats. 
 

Doan does the potential to be a Middle Six Forward. 

1 hour ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I had no issues with Malenstyn’s play other than he doesn’t score much. He was high energy, good on puck battles, throwing his body around so no wonder Ruff doesn’t like him, he’s not a cream puff like Power.

 

Also where are you getting this information from?

I hear stuff from time to time 

Posted
2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

At least with Doan there’s the age factor. He’s just coming out of his ELC and is 4-9 years younger than anyone else on that list. The rest are what they are, but he’s still developing. 

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Just now, Brawndo said:

Doan does the potential to be a Middle Six Forward. 

This is what will help the deal go from magic beans to a hockey trade that tilts in Buffalo’s favour.
All three players have upside, with Doan being the most unproven at the NHL level. If Doan becomes a power forward who scores near 20 goals and is a physical forechecking beast, then his value will not be far below JJP’s current worth. JJP at 30 goals but a defensive black hole is not worth much more than Doan at 20 plus intangibles.

If JJP goes off and becomes a perennial 35-40 goal man then Kesselring will have to hit his ceiling to make this deal a good one.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, French Collection said:

This is what will help the deal go from magic beans to a hockey trade that tilts in Buffalo’s favour.
All three players have upside, with Doan being the most unproven at the NHL level. If Doan becomes a power forward who scores near 20 goals and is a physical forechecking beast, then his value will not be far below JJP’s current worth. JJP at 30 goals but a defensive black hole is not worth much more than Doan at 20 plus intangibles.

If JJP goes off and becomes a perennial 35-40 goal man then Kesselring will have to hit his ceiling to make this deal a good one.

Unproven but NHL ready. For once, they didn’t add another 18-20 year old. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

General question, not directed specifically to you:   Why should a fan believe that Danforth and Doan are different than Lafferty, Aube-Kubel, and Malenstyn?

I don't think Danforth will be much different. Doan though has some skills that I don't think the players mentioned did. There's a real drive to improve with him and he's got the pedigree and maturity to do it. I also think that when you look at his underlying numbers, there's some good things in there.

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

I hear stuff from time to time 

You should see a Dr about that... 

Worried GIF

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