Kevyn Adams pre draft press conference and shenanigans festival

[Mr Peabody]

Needs to delegate any press meetings to Jarmo.  Starting building back credibility for  the Sabres brand.  

[Flashsabre]

57 minutes ago, Mango said:

I'm also super surprised at how not plugged into prospects Adams is. He doesn't start getting to know prospects until January? Then doesn't pour into film until May?

And sometimes he doesn't know about all the work the scouting team put into a certain player until they're on the clock?

That sounds crazy.

He comes across like a bumbling idiot.

GMs aren’t usually looking at draft prospects unless it is a top pick. Closer to the draft they get filled in by their scouting staff and dive in but throughout the year they are worried about their team day to day.

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

GMs aren’t usually looking at draft prospects unless it is a top pick. Closer to the draft they get filled in by their scouting staff and dive in but throughout the year they are worried about their team day to day.

Adams said they build through the draft... so again his words fail to match his actions. 

If he builds through the draft, why the hell isn't the draft a major major focus for him?

Edited 8 hours ago by LGR4GM

[Archie Lee]

Over time, a leader’s predominant personality traits will come to be seen in the light of their level of success. Adams has had no success. None. So, his patient approach (“Teams are calling and it’s my job to listen. We are open to anything, but we are only going to make a move if it makes us better”), just comes across as passive and weak. I mean, does he ever make a call?  Or do teams just call him?  Does he ever aggressively pursue a player to improve the team?  Or does he just wait for teams to call him about his players and see if they offer something that makes sense? At one point in the presser, when speaking of adding Eric Staal, Adams said (I’m paraphrasing) that he has ALWAYS thought it was important to have someone on staff who was recently in the game. He has ALWAYS thought this. So, logically he added such a person in year 6. 

I don’t doubt that Adams makes calls to other teams. But, he presents as a man who feels no sense of urgency and who has no clear and specific plan to make the team dramatically better. The last two seasons, you could actually see how that general sense of complacency (We will get there when we get there), has seeped into the personality of the roster. It’s simply bizarre that a man of Pegula’s wealth and stature continues to entrust the Sabres’s fortunes to Adams. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Archie Lee

[#freejame]

Kevyn Adams is a guy who thought it was in his best interest to go to the University of Phoenix. That says everything you should need to know about his competency and decision making. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

30 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

GMs aren’t usually looking at draft prospects unless it is a top pick. Closer to the draft they get filled in by their scouting staff and dive in but throughout the year they are worried about their team day to day.

The day to day is also, by all accounts, $hit. So, what exactly does he do. He ices a crap team, gives laughable public conferences and lacks any killer instinct. He's essentially a Hemmhroid attached to the innards of Terry's rectal cavity. For some reason Terry seems to enjoy having Hemmhroids. Good for him I suppose 😜

[Archie Lee]

Fair to say Peterka has asked for a trade. I mean, if he hadn’t asked for a trade then the easiest thing in the world would have been for Adams to say “no, he hasn’t”.  I imagine if Adams had been asked if Dahlin has asked for a trade, that he would not have given a word-salad reply, but would have shot it down with at least the level of conviction that he shot down the notion of a Samuelsson buyout. 

So this is where we are at. Year 5 of the Adams rebuild, which is based on the cultural concept of players wanting to be here, and at the top of the pre-draft trade board is a 23 year old Sabre, largely viewed in league circles as a future star, who has asked to be moved. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Archie Lee

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Really did not say much. 

I learned at least 5 things of real interest to me:

• Samuelsson is not getting bought out
• The Peterka  talk is real
• The coaching staff is coming back
• The Sabres see the top of the draft as 6-7 players deep; with a large cluster immediately after
• Alex Tuch is open to re-signing; talks will get serious after draft/free agency

I also learned that the Kevyn Adams hate has risen to the point that pretty much anything that comes out of his mouth at any time will trigger somebody on Sabrespace, but I guess i knew that already. 😁

[French Collection]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

I disagree that Samuelsson should be bought out. Where I do agree with you is that the letter should be taken away from him. He never should have been given a letter, just as Eichel should not have been given a letter when he was so young. Samuelsson needs to concentrate on his game and durability. Much of the hostility directed toward him is due to his style of play. Although he is a big fellow, he is not a banger. That's not his game and never will be. But that doesn't mean that he can't be a solid and versatile player for us. 

I think he has some trade value now that the cap has gone up. I don’t want a buy out but I want him gone.

Thompson and Dahlin are the best players and they come to the defence of a fallen teammate, why can’t Mule? His goofy personality keeps things loose but in the competitive arena he is a teammate and his size should be enough to push back and maybe shove a few bodies. I know he will never be a fighter but defend yourself, your mates and the crest.

 

[Drag0nDan]

6 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Kevyn Adams is a guy who thought it was in his best interest to go to the University of Phoenix. That says everything you should need to know about his competency and decision making. 

I thought he want to Miami University...?

[French Collection]

Just now, Archie Lee said:

Over time, a leader’s predominant personality traits will come to be seen in the light of their level of success. Adams has had no success. None. So, his patient approach (“Teams are calling and it’s my job to listen. We are open to anything, but we are only going to make a move if it makes us better”), just comes across as passive and weak. I mean, does he ever make a call?  Or do teams just call him?  Does he ever aggressively pursue a player to improve the team?  Or does he just wait for teams to call him about his players and see if they offer something that makes sense? At one point in the presser, when speaking of adding Eric Staal, Adams said (I’m paraphrasing) that he has ALWAYS thought it was important to have someone on staff who was recently in the game. He has ALWAYS thought this. So, logically he added such a person in year 6. 

I don’t doubt that Adams makes calls to other teams. But, he presents as a man who feels no sense of urgency and who has no clear and specific plan to make the team dramatically better. The last two seasons, you could actually see how that general sense of complacency (We will get there when we get there), has seeped into the personality of the roster. It’s simply bizarre that a man of Pegula’s wealth and stature continues to entrust the Sabres’s fortunes to Adams. 

Farm teams wait for a call before sending someone up, KA is following that model. He loves all of the guys he brought in so why should he call around to move them, besides TP thinks the answer is in the room.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

They are going to say how much they "value" each of their players until they move them.

I expect a major move or two, possibly someone who is under the radar at the moment.

One can only hope.....

[Drag0nDan]

3 minutes ago, French Collection said:

Farm teams wait for a call before sending someone up, KA is following that model. He loves all of the guys he brought in so why should he call around to move them, besides TP thinks the answer is in the room.

The answer probably has to be in the room unless you think Buffalo has a shot at any major free agents.  The prevalence of contract clauses that prevent you from going to a team you don't want to makes it much more challenging to acquire players.  

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

GMs aren’t usually looking at draft prospects unless it is a top pick. Closer to the draft they get filled in by their scouting staff and dive in but throughout the year they are worried about their team day to day.

Right, I get that. But also, it's a very weird public admission. One would think that there is some sort of biweekly touch base with scouts with a top line review and film.

There can't be too much time in his day to review the top 3 guys each scout looked at that month. I don't expect the GM to be up until 3am in November watching film every night.

But I do expect them to get familiar with them before January and start watching film on them before May.

Let's just pretend the Sabres are a playoff team. Trying to cram for the draft during the playoffs would be a bear. But it's super manageable if you stay in touch with what your prospective draft pool is before, say January/May.

Managing, directing, and sorting the information from your pro and amateur scouting staff should be like 80% of a GM's job.

[USMCSnyper]

FYRE KYVYN

[LGR4GM]

If Adams isn't looking at draft prospects until May... what the F is he doing with his time? 

[Flashsabre]

I think most people associate the GM with the drafting. It is really the director of scouting and scouting staff that do all the leg work. Come scouting meetings the GM is brought up to date and then dives in on the top prospects.  If you listen to scouts interviews they are usually fighting with each other in meeting to pound the table and advocate for players  they are trying to convince the GM to draft.  GMs have no clue who the 4-7th round talent is. The scouting dept makes those selections.

If you look at teams who draft well, it’s not the GM it is the director of scouting who get the accolades.

And that is for all teams just not Buffalo.

[Carmel Corn]

34 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If Adams isn't looking at draft prospects until May... what the F is he doing with his time? 

Well, at least part of the time he's talking to Terry EVERYDAY!  🙃

[French Collection]

Just now, Carmel Corn said:

Well, at least part of the time he's talking to Terry EVERYDAY!  🙃

Face to face or face to cheeks?

[Doohickie]

17 hours ago, JohnC said:

My expectation/hope is that Quinn, JJP, Power, Benson, Kulich and Samuelsson will be better. Am I being unreasonable? I don't think so. All these young players have enough experience where they should be a lot more comfortable in manly league. 

I don't think it's unreasonable.  They've all showed signs of being better players than they were last season.  The question is:  Who are they really?  Are they the Better Players they've shown signs of in the past, or the One Step Back players we saw last season?  Was last year their collective sophomore slump and they'll bounce back this year?  Will some of them do so?  Which ones won't?

[7+6=13]

2 hours ago, French Collection said:

I think he has some trade value now that the cap has gone up. I don’t want a buy out but I want him gone.

 

I really disagree that he has trade value.  At minimum, partial evidence is the buyout rumors or truth of it.  Players get bought out because they can't be traded.

I'm not saying it's impossible that he's traded.  IMO, if he is traded, we'll have to overcome his negative value and give up more or receive less.

[JP51]

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

I learned at least 5 things of real interest to me:

• Samuelsson is not getting bought out
• The Peterka  talk is real
• The coaching staff is coming back
• The Sabres see the top of the draft as 6-7 players deep; with a large cluster immediately after
• Alex Tuch is open to re-signing; talks will get serious after draft/free agency

I also learned that the Kevyn Adams hate has risen to the point that pretty much anything that comes out of his mouth at any time will trigger somebody on Sabrespace, but I guess i knew that already. 😁

I agree especially with your last commentary... he has burned civilization as we know it to the ground as we know it... he has lied, failed and demonstrated incompetence at a level that needs to be seen to be believed... he has responded to it with silence, then smug arrogance and degradation of the city and fans... there is no way back for him, the earth is scorched... so any "words"  that come out of his mouth with regards to the future I am certain will be met with abject disdain and ridicule unless there is bona fide success to back them up (we know the likelihood of that) ...   the real question is how does Pegula not see the depths in which this joke has been driven into the ground.. or does he and simply doesn't care.... 

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:

I really disagree that he has trade value.  At minimum, partial evidence is the buyout rumors or truth of it.  Players get bought out because they can't be traded.

I'm not saying it's impossible that he's traded.  IMO, if he is traded, we'll have to overcome his negative value and give up more or receive less.

I agree here.. if he is traded its for a price that is a lower type pick that someone wants to take a shot at... I also think there is a solid shot we would have to eat some salary...  I suspect if we agreed to eat salary the pic may be a little better...  but I do think he may have a modest value. 

Edited 5 hours ago by JP51

[SwampD]

14 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

The worst thing in the press conference hasn't even been discussed yet.

Pegula has his daughter sitting in on scouting meetings?!?!?! In what world would this be a thing for any other franchise in professional sports?!?!

I'd rather have her in the meetings than Pegula himself.

[That Aud Smell]

11 minutes ago, SwampD said:

I'd rather have her in the meetings than Pegula himself.

not unfair.

it occurs to me: i don't really know a thing about laura -- a child of terry's first marriage.

she's not a tennis pro and personal essayist (jessica). she hasn't come up with any harbourcenter restaurant concepts. (kelly). she didn't create the j1zz hat (matthew).

what's laura's story?