Summer 2025: NHL Offseason

[PromoTheRobot]

Kakko was signed today.

 

[That Aud Smell]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

I have absolutely no idea what I'm reading.

You have my sympathies.

[thewookie1]

5 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

It's an accumulated sense of things. That wedding picture is consistent with it, I suppose. Moreover, getting married nowadays when you're 22 years old is part of it. Dude just comes off super trad.

As does Thompson.

And like I said: I'm not sure what to make of it.

Does it inhibit team bonding?

If I'm being cynical and sh1tty about it (haha - which means I'm about to be): It's almost giving Mormon vibes.

Then again, Brigham Young fields some competitive ass football teams.

Huh? I’m unsure how to even compute this.

Most hockey players are going to fall on the more conservative side of beliefs and are going to be more likely to have more traditional relationships since they’ll be the breadwinner 99.9% of the time and if they have children the mother will almost certainly stay at home. 
 

Why would that have any impact on the team? If they tend to have a more traditional relationship how is that a bad thing?

As I said their playing career effectively pidgin-holes them into a more traditional role set up. Otherwise they can’t have children. And sorry if this might be controversial but if a baby is born; at very least one parent should be a primary caretaker for the child. Last I checked players don’t retire upon becoming fathers so there you go. 
 

Frankly there’s a reason traditional roles have been used for centuries; it works well. And it’s not as if the wife has a gun to her head to have babies and stay home 24/7. 

6 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'm not sure what to make of how trad** two of the team's core players are/seem to be -- Thompson and Power. 

** From the Know Your Meme website:

That “regressive” statement really gets my blood boiling. They like to make it sound like traditional roles requires a nigh 1930’s or earlier style of behavior and that it’s automatically a negative. 

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6 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

It's an accumulated sense of things. That wedding picture is consistent with it, I suppose. Moreover, getting married nowadays when you're 22 years old is part of it. Dude just comes off super trad.

As does Thompson.

And like I said: I'm not sure what to make of it.

Does it inhibit team bonding?

If I'm being cynical and sh1tty about it (haha - which means I'm about to be): It's almost giving Mormon vibes.

Then again, Brigham Young fields some competitive ass football teams.

Didn’t you watch American Primeval? You have the Mormons all wrong.

[That Aud Smell]

6 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Huh? I’m unsure how to even compute this.

Most hockey players are going to fall on the more conservative side of beliefs and are going to be more likely to have more traditional relationships since they’ll be the breadwinner 99.9% of the time and if they have children the mother will almost certainly stay at home. 
 

Why would that have any impact on the team? If they tend to have a more traditional relationship how is that a bad thing?

As I said their playing career effectively pidgin-holes them into a more traditional role set up. Otherwise they can’t have children. And sorry if this might be controversial but if a baby is born; at very least one parent should be a primary caretaker for the child. Last I checked players don’t retire upon becoming fathers so there you go. 
 

Frankly there’s a reason traditional roles have been used for centuries; it works well. And it’s not as if the wife has a gun to her head to have babies and stay home 24/7. 

That “regressive” statement really gets my blood boiling. They like to make it sound like traditional roles requires a nigh 1930’s or earlier style of behavior and that it’s automatically a negative. 

I don’t mean to cause offence, although I probably should have anticipated that I might.

I’m just calling it like I perceive it: Power and Thompson seem somewhat unusual relative to their peers — or at least relative to how I’ve generally perceived pro hockey players. Sociologically speaking, anyway.

5 hours ago, ... said:

Didn’t you watch American Primeval? You have the Mormons all wrong.

I haven’t. I’ll keep an eye out for it.

[shrader]

So we’re outraged that he got married? What on earth is going on in here right now? The offseason sucks. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

I'm happy if he's happy ☺️

I still have a skewed view of marriage in general on the whole, but that's not a discussion for this time or place. 

Can the regular season just start soon. 

[Weave]

40 minutes ago, shrader said:

So we’re outraged that he got married? What on earth is going on in here right now? The offseason sucks. 

We are outraged?

[That Aud Smell]

51 minutes ago, shrader said:

So we’re outraged that he got married? What on earth is going on in here right now? The offseason sucks. 

Where are you seeing "outraged?"

Other than from your own posts, that is.

Chill, daddy.

12 minutes ago, Weave said:

We are outraged?

srsly

[That Aud Smell]

re the vibe I get off Thompson and Power. (lol.)

[shrader]

24 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Where are you seeing "outraged?"

Other than from your own posts, that is.

Chill, daddy.

srsly

You are familiar with hyperbole, correct?  I'm just not sure why a wedding picture is the inspiration for these observations/criticisms, but like I said, the offseason sucks.  It brings on the stupid.

[LGR4GM]

10 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Frankly there’s a reason traditional roles have been used for centuries; it works well. And it’s not as if the wife has a gun to her head to have babies and stay home 24/7. 

That “regressive” statement really gets my blood boiling. They like to make it sound like traditional roles requires a nigh 1930’s or earlier style of behavior and that it’s automatically a negative. 

Religion. 

FTR Wookie, I have no issue at all with holding traditional values or Power getting married. I also dont have any issue with religions. 

[That Aud Smell]

25 minutes ago, shrader said:

You are familiar with hyperbole, correct?  I'm just not sure why a wedding picture is the inspiration for these observations/criticisms, but like I said, the offseason sucks.  It brings on the stupid.

I'm familiar with hyperbole. It's appropriate in some situations. I'm not sure it played here when you're just characterizing some posts about Power's vibe.

There were several wedding pictures that I saw - the one above was not among them. They were all in a church and were very, well, as I said, trad(itional).

As for my inquiry being "stupid," to each their own. There's no need to be unkind, imo.

Having been married in religious settings at 24 and 22 years of age (I think) and leading what I infer are religiously-based lives, Thompson and Power are unusual among their generational cohort generally and, I think, even more unusual among their pro hockey peers.

Like I said above: I'm not sure what to make of that. If anything!

By way of further context: I'm a religious person. I attend services every weekend (mostly). I'm active in my faith community. If any of my kids in their early 20s were regular church-goers and got married to someone I thought was good for them, I'd be delighted. To varying degrees, that hasn't quite happened yet.

Edit: I'm religious as in: I'm a heavily post Vatican II Cafeteria Catholic. I definitely vibed with my share of guitar masses. And the Jesuits -- who skew pretty liberal -- are my preferred religious order of priests.

Edited 7 hours ago by That Aud Smell

[That Aud Smell]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Religion. 

And social norms.

And the realities imposed (generated) by modern economies.

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

And social norms.

And the realities imposed (generated) by modern economies.

Yes, which again is why I have no issue with Owen Power getting married. Dude can do what he wants. 

[That Aud Smell]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Yes, which again is why I have no issue with Owen Power getting married. Dude can do what he wants. 

I likewise have no issue with it - in a vacuum.

It does make me wonder a bit, though. As I've said.

And by "wonder," I don't mean I'm actually judging and concluding. Like I'm actually wondering.

[French Collection]

I just want to know if marriage will toughen him up by any amount? Again, he will never be Pronger but there is a lot of room for growth, give us 10% more Owen.

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I just want to know if marriage will toughen him up by any amount? Again, he will never be Pronger but there is a lot of room for growth, give us 10% more Owen.

Marriage, no

Kids, yes

[Weave]

32 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I likewise have no issue with it - in a vacuum.

It does make me wonder a bit, though. As I've said.

And by "wonder," I don't mean I'm actually judging and concluding. Like I'm actually wondering.

I am not sure it is possible to have a conversation this nuanced on the internet and have it be productive.

[shrader]

50 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'm familiar with hyperbole. It's appropriate in some situations. I'm not sure it played here when you're just characterizing some posts about Power's vibe.

There were several wedding pictures that I saw - the one above was not among them. They were all in a church and were very, well, as I said, trad(itional).

As for my inquiry being "stupid," to each their own. There's no need to be unkind, imo.

Having been married in religious settings at 24 and 22 years of age (I think) and leading what I infer are religiously-based lives, Thompson and Power are unusual among their generational cohort generally and, I think, even more unusual among their pro hockey peers.

Like I said above: I'm not sure what to make of that. If anything!

By way of further context: I'm a religious person. I attend services every weekend (mostly). I'm active in my faith community. If any of my kids in their early 20s were regular church-goers and got married to someone I thought was good for them, I'd be delighted. To varying degrees, that hasn't quite happened yet.

Edit: I'm religious as in: I'm a heavily post Vatican II Cafeteria Catholic. I definitely vibed with my share of guitar masses. And the Jesuits -- who skew pretty liberal -- are my preferred religious order of priests.

The term you started it off with felt derogatory to me.  If I read something into that which wasn't there, that's on me.  I'm not around teenagers or 20 somethings, so I have no idea, but it does seem like most of these labels wind up being used that way.

[That Aud Smell]

2 minutes ago, shrader said:

The term you started it off with felt derogatory to me.  If I read something into that which wasn't there, that's on me.  I'm not around teenagers or 20 somethings, so I have no idea, but it does seem like most of these labels wind up being used that way.

Nah man, that's not unfair. There's a lil shade being thrown there. "Trad" is in part used with regard to the "trad wife" movement which is ... something.

"Trad" in general is just a cheeky, young person's way of saying "sorta old fashioned" and a societal outlier in this increasingly secular, cynical world. And such.

And as I acknowledged above, there's part of my wondering that involves (sorta sh1tty) speculation that these young #followersofJesus husbands and fathers are not optimal for developing vibes in an NHL locker room.

But I don't know that. I don't know anything here. This is a thought project.

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Religion. 

FTR Wookie, I have no issue at all with holding traditional values or Power getting married. I also dont have any issue with religions. 

Well that is certainly high on the reasoning for sure

[thewookie1]

19 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Nah man, that's not unfair. There's a lil shade being thrown there. "Trad" is in part used with regard to the "trad wife" movement which is ... something.

"Trad" in general is just a cheeky, young person's way of saying "sorta old fashioned" and a societal outlier in this increasingly secular, cynical world. And such.

And as I acknowledged above, there's part of my wondering that involves (sorta sh1tty) speculation that these young #followersofJesus husbands and fathers are not optimal for developing vibes in an NHL locker room.

But I don't know that. I don't know anything here. This is a thought project.

Frankly I'd guess NHL players would be more predominantly in line with a more "old-fashioned" line of thinking. For players not looking to live fast and loose and have a long time girlfriend; locking them up isn't exactly inconceivable.

Players in hockey, do tend to be of Christian origin and will use the motifs and typical behaviors in everything from interviews to what charity work they do. You also have the interesting circumstance of Europeans tending to be more secular however the ones that aren't tending to be more outwardly religious. 

 

To sum it up, I don't really see Power or Thompson's marriages and religious overtones being an issue as I wouldn't be surprised if many of the players are at very least passively religious.