What should happen in goal?

[dudacek]

Here is the UFA market. Not sure there are answers there.

 

[The Jokeman]

55 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

We all agree they need an experienced #1 NHL goalie right? That you can't run upl/ Levi and expect any hope of playoffs?

Yes, keep Levi in Rochester unless injury. 

[LGR4GM]

15 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Here is the UFA market. Not sure there are answers there.

 

Jake Allen maybe?

Actually Anton Forsberg is an option, Our new Sr advisor knows him

 

Edited Sunday at 03:59 PM by LGR4GM

[The Jokeman]

29 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Jake Allen maybe?

Actually Anton Forsberg is an option, Our new Sr advisor knows him

 

I brought up Vladar earlier as his GAA and save percentage numbers been solid minus 2023-2024. To me he's as good as can find as a 1B you can find. I keep UPL to pair with him and eventually Levi. 

[Flashsabre]

29 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I brought up Vladar earlier as his GAA and save percentage numbers been solid minus 2023-2024. To me he's as good as can find as a 1B you can find. I keep UPL to pair with him and eventually Levi. 

This is where Jarmo would come in. Adams is so obsessed with Levi being the answer that he can’t see any other option. Hopefully Jarmo can shake it up a bit in that front office.

Ive always liked Vladar but he’s never taken that step I thought he would.

[Broken Ankles]

59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Jake Allen maybe?

Actually Anton Forsberg is an option, Our new Sr advisor knows him

 

Forsberg,  with a high bid on AAV (cause taxes and tree types) but low term.  Give him a legit chance to capture a 1a role and spin it into a long term deal in summer of 2026/27.  Don’t use trade capital on a Demko or others this year.  Use Bo + prospects + Draft picks to solidify two RD/stay at home types.  Then see results of a 1a/1b tandem can do. We need at least one season with a respectable top 4 group. 
 

Question is how much does the offer have to be over others to convince a UFA to sign with Buffalo? If he was $2.75M in OTT would $4M do it?  

[LGR4GM]

41 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Forsberg,  with a high bid on AAV (cause taxes and tree types) but low term.  Give him a legit chance to capture a 1a role and spin it into a long term deal in summer of 2026/27.  Don’t use trade capital on a Demko or others this year.  Use Bo + prospects + Draft picks to solidify two RD/stay at home types.  Then see results of a 1a/1b tandem can do. We need at least one season with a respectable top 4 group. 
 

Question is how much does the offer have to be over others to convince a UFA to sign with Buffalo? If he was $2.75M in OTT would $4M do it?  

We don't need 2 rhd stay at homes, we need one for Power. Dahlin needs a lhd stay at home type. 

[Broken Ankles]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

We don't need 2 rhd stay at homes, we need one for Power. Dahlin needs a lhd stay at home type. 

Just because he can play on his off-hand, doesn’t mean he should.  Dahlin provides flexibility that other defenders do not but for planning, it needs to be RD.  In addition, others on the farm (little Nikita and RJ) are LD and will soon need a vet RD to support.  Let’s cross that bridge now in stead of waiting like they did with Owen. 

[Thorny]

4 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

We all agree they need an experienced #1 NHL goalie right? That you can't run upl/ Levi and expect any hope of playoffs?

I honestly don’t even think about goalie upgrades. We are going on 6 years now it’s just not an area Adams addresses. I guess with Jarmo in the fold I should at least start considering the possibility 

If we see a substantial move, it’s likely due to his influence 

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

On 5/29/2025 at 12:23 PM, Mr. Allen said:

Trade for Demko a possibility?

I like this idea. I am absolutely not married to the idea of Levi becoming a franchise goalie. Demko has a lot of skill and IF he can stay healthy, can be a steal for Buffalo. And he is only signed for 1 more year

[French Collection]

24 minutes ago, Palm Trees And Taxes said:

I like this idea. I am absolutely not married to the idea of Levi becoming a franchise goalie. Demko has a lot of skill and IF he can stay healthy, can be a steal for Buffalo. And he is only signed for 1 more year

Sometimes you have to gamble a bit and you’re buying low. Capitals got lucky with that position last year.

4 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

This is where Jarmo would come in. Adams is so obsessed with Levi being the answer that he can’t see any other option. Hopefully Jarmo can shake it up a bit in that front office.

Ive always liked Vladar but he’s never taken that step I thought he would.

Jarmo, being a Finn, could also tell UPL to shape up or he will be shipped out in his native tongue.

[PerreaultForever]

Demko might be very available given how good Silovs has been in the Abbotsford Canucks playoff run. He's no longer waiver exempt and so Canucks might decide to move Demko and keep him. 

[thewookie1]

11 hours ago, Broken Ankles said:

Just because he can play on his off-hand, doesn’t mean he should.  Dahlin provides flexibility that other defenders do not but for planning, it needs to be RD.  In addition, others on the farm (little Nikita and RJ) are LD and will soon need a vet RD to support.  Let’s cross that bridge now in stead of waiting like they did with Owen. 

Dahlin actually looks better on his off-side

 

9 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Demko might be very available given how good Silovs has been in the Abbotsford Canucks playoff run. He's no longer waiver exempt and so Canucks might decide to move Demko and keep him. 

 

It would take some cap finagling but I'd be happy to give him a shot. Let him and UPL compete 

[LGR4GM]

15 hours ago, Broken Ankles said:

Just because he can play on his off-hand, doesn’t mean he should.  Dahlin provides flexibility that other defenders do not but for planning, it needs to be RD.  In addition, others on the farm (little Nikita and RJ) are LD and will soon need a vet RD to support.  Let’s cross that bridge now in stead of waiting like they did with Owen. 

Dahlin prefers his off side. 

Nikita Novikov actually has more pro experience than Owen Power. Finding a veteran 3rd line rhd isn't a big concern impo but maybe Fabbro or Perbix can be slotted there. 

[Drag0nDan]

7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Demko might be very available given how good Silovs has been in the Abbotsford Canucks playoff run. He's no longer waiver exempt and so Canucks might decide to move Demko and keep him. 

They already extended Lankinen, so I assume theyre moving demko either this offseason or at the deadline.  

Me personally?  Step 1 is getting rid of UPL somehow.  

Edited Monday at 02:08 PM by Drag0nDan

[LGR4GM]

Adams will run back UPL and Levi because he doesn't have his own ideas. 

[Flashsabre]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Adams will run back UPL and Levi because he doesn't have his own ideas. 

Hopefully Jarmo’s ideas are better😃

[PerreaultForever]

12 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Dahlin actually looks better on his off-side

 

 

It would take some cap finagling but I'd be happy to give him a shot. Let him and UPL compete 

Cap finagling isn't the problem some people keep thinking it is. You can move bodies out if you are a creative GM. It's done constantly around the league. 

[PerreaultForever]

5 hours ago, Drag0nDan said:

They already extended Lankinen, so I assume theyre moving demko either this offseason or at the deadline.  

Me personally?  Step 1 is getting rid of UPL somehow.  

I don't see the urgency in getting rid of UPL. If we got Demko he starts, Levi can battle UPL for the back up job and if he earns it definitively then you can look at it but otherwise you start Levi in Rochester and let it play out the way these things play out on other teams. Rookies EARNING jobs, not being given them. 

[The Jokeman]

18 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I don't see the urgency in getting rid of UPL. If we got Demko he starts, Levi can battle UPL for the back up job and if he earns it definitively then you can look at it but otherwise you start Levi in Rochester and let it play out the way these things play out on other teams. Rookies EARNING jobs, not being given them. 

The only way I move UPL is if we acquire a legitimate #1 G, I know some have suggested Oettinger which is nice except he under contract til 2033. That's a super commitment and I am not comfortable with it as this team, I don't know if system/players or combo of both but worry he won't live up to that contract here. 

[Drag0nDan]

20 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I don't see the urgency in getting rid of UPL. If we got Demko he starts, Levi can battle UPL for the back up job and if he earns it definitively then you can look at it but otherwise you start Levi in Rochester and let it play out the way these things play out on other teams. Rookies EARNING jobs, not being given them. 

My issue with UPL is he is not very good, especially when considering what he's being paid now.  If he is starting 30ish games, i expect to lose more than i win with him in net, and i don't see a ceiling of anything notable.  

[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

The only way I move UPL is if we acquire a legitimate #1 G, I know some have suggested Oettinger which is nice except he under contract til 2033. That's a super commitment and I am not comfortable with it as this team, I don't know if system/players or combo of both but worry he won't live up to that contract here. 

I'm making that deal . imo you want to build a winning team you start with 3 pillars. A franchise goalie, a franchise D man and a top scoring forward. We have the D man 100% in Dahlin, Thompson isn't the best in the league but he can be viewed as a top level scoring forward, and the missing pillar is a star goalie. Oettinger can be that. 

[PerreaultForever]

5 hours ago, Drag0nDan said:

My issue with UPL is he is not very good, especially when considering what he's being paid now.  If he is starting 30ish games, i expect to lose more than i win with him in net, and i don't see a ceiling of anything notable.  

Consistent no, but as a back up I think adequate. overpaid in that role but so be it until Levi can take it from him. Depth is important too if we want to be serious about winning