Buffalo Bills 2025 Thread

[Pimlach]

Bills with a really great win.  Best game the defense has played in a while.  Mahommes passed for 44% today, his first time ever under 50%.  Hairston and Bishop both really stepped up.  I hope what we saw is their new normal   If it is they will elevate everyone.  

Unfortunately we will lose Hoecht, he made a big impact in 2 games.  

Allen had a fine game.  So did Cook and Kincaid.   The offense did good, but it still feels like the play calling is holding them back.  

The last offensive series leading to the missed FG was just too conservative.  Perfect time for Allen and run/pass options. One more first down and you’re comfortably taking knees.

Overall a great win.  The Bills can make a run for the Super Bowl.  I Billieve! 
 

Oh, and Sabres-Bills weekend W’s feel fantastic!

[Goldseatsaud]

Joe Ferguson with Kelly was legend of the game. Anybody see Fergy

[Flashsabre]

That’s the most I’ve seen the Bills D get to Mahomes in a game. 
 

Hairston can be a difference maker if he keeps developing. Best game I have seen Bishop play.

Still think they need to add an impact WR.

[LGR4GM]

20 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I asked my friends who has reffed amateur sports.  He said there's some discretion there.  The ball hitting a player isn't automatically an illegal touch and since the lineman had his back to Mahommes it wasn't considered an illegal touch.

Illegal touch.  A lineman is not allowed to catch the ball.

Thanks, didn't remember that. 

[JujuFish]

Cole Bishop's 4 passes defended is tied for 4th most ever by a Bill. Nate Clements (5, 2002), London Fletcher (5, 2006), and Terrence McGee (6, 2008) are the only Bills with more.

[Doohickie]

13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Thanks, didn't remember that. 

That's why you hear about linemen reporting eligible in goal line offenses.  If they are an offensive lineman, they are not allowed to catch a pass.  But if they report eligible, they can catch a pass (and more importantly for most of these plays, they can line up as a receiver or tight end and it's not an illegal formation).

Edited 6 hours ago by Doohickie

[JustOneParade]

Gotta wonder if Bishop having Poyer back there with him helped steady the young man a bit.

[shrader]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

I asked my friends who has reffed amateur sports.  He said there's some discretion there.  The ball hitting a player isn't automatically an illegal touch and since the lineman had his back to Mahommes it wasn't considered an illegal touch.

Illegal touch.  A lineman is not allowed to catch the ball.

That and he was very clearly throwing to the guy standing directly next to him. I swimming if it hit the lineman there with no one anywhere near him then they call it. 
 

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Allen had a fine game.  So did Cook and Kincaid.   The offense did good, but it still feels like the play calling is holding them back.  

 

If you take a look at the top of the running and passing stats you will see exactly what this team needs to be. Cook and Kincaid led the way. It’s a completely different game with Kincaid back and healthy. 

[Porous Five Hole]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

 

The last offensive series leading to the missed FG was just too conservative.  Perfect time for Allen and run/pass options. One more first down and you’re comfortably taking knees.

I thought about this for a bit, and I don’t agree.  While I’m with you that an additional first down would have iced the game, on that drive the Bills converted one first down and then ran three times to burn the clock as much as possible. I think that was the correct play.  KC didn’t have any time outs after the missed FG. And if the FG is good, game over right there. 
 

Long story short, I’ll take three run plays and a 47 yard try with :40 to go versus the risk of an incompletion and double the time left. I think the Bills had it right. 
 

My biggest gripe is McD using five of his six timeouts on Def/Special Teams. I mean, come on lol 

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

I asked my friends who has reffed amateur sports.  He said there's some discretion there.  The ball hitting a player isn't automatically an illegal touch and since the lineman had his back to Mahommes it wasn't considered an illegal touch.

Illegal touch.  A lineman is not allowed to catch the ball.

That may be the official rationale, but the reality is it was the refs giving Kermit a "makeup call" for having had the audacity to call him for grounding the drive before when the Bills lineman's hand grazed the ball on the one Mahomes intentionally grounded.

It also was VERY close to having been touched by a Bills lineman before hitting the lineman in the helmet so pretty sure that also went into giving him the benefit of the doubt.  This is the crew that called the WR for illegal motion or offsided on the Home Run Throw Forward Kelce had the last time they played in the RS in KC to take away their TD so they were on their best behavior to try not to give the Swifties sads.

[Taro T]

30 minutes ago, shrader said:

That and he was very clearly throwing to the guy standing directly next to him. I swimming if it hit the lineman there with no one anywhere near him then they call it. 
 

If you take a look at the top of the running and passing stats you will see exactly what this team needs to be. Cook and Kincaid led the way. It’s a completely different game with Kincaid back and healthy. 

Have seen Allen called for that exact play that Mahomes didn't get called for.  Had Mahomes not gotten called for the grounding earlier expect there's a reasonable chance KC does get called there (say reasonable, not that it's likely, intentional or not KC gets calls other teams don't get; just like Filly gets calls on the tush push that others don't get) but not after the controversy of the earlier call.  My 2 cents, YMMV.

[Pimlach]

14 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I thought about this for a bit, and I don’t agree.  While I’m with you that an additional first down would have iced the game, on that drive the Bills converted one first down and then ran three times to burn the clock as much as possible. I think that was the correct play.  KC didn’t have any time outs after the missed FG. And if the FG is good, game over right there. 
 

Long story short, I’ll take three run plays and  47 yard try with :40 to go versus the risk of an incompletion and double the time left. I think the Bills had it right. 
 

My biggest gripe is McD using five of his six timeouts on Def/Special Teams. I mean, come on lol 

They took an offensive time out and ran it up the middle.  How about roll Allen right, and show the intent to run, then back off and look for pass to a big target, we have several.   If the pass is not there Allen tucks it in and runs, and stays in bounds. 

A run/pass option. He has done this play many, many times with success for prior OC's.  

Or run the plays that they did, run out the play clock, take the 5 yard penalty, and punt it inside the 10 instead and in a corner.  Instead of kicking a FG with an injured kicker and giving them the ball at midfield.   

Edited 5 hours ago by Pimlach

[inkman]

1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

Cole Bishop's 4 passes defended is tied for 4th most ever by a Bill. Nate Clements (5, 2002), London Fletcher (5, 2006), and Terrence McGee (6, 2008) are the only Bills with more.

My nether regions were tingling watching him play tonight.  

1 hour ago, JustOneParade said:

Gotta wonder if Bishop having Poyer back there with him helped steady the young man a bit.

Or motivate him 

[calti]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

His best game as a BIll.  Noticeable for all the right reasons.

It was great..I was shocked seeing him play so well...

[shrader]

1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I thought about this for a bit, and I don’t agree.  While I’m with you that an additional first down would have iced the game, on that drive the Bills converted one first down and then ran three times to burn the clock as much as possible. I think that was the correct play.  KC didn’t have any time outs after the missed FG. And if the FG is good, game over right there. 
 

Long story short, I’ll take three run plays and a 47 yard try with :40 to go versus the risk of an incompletion and double the time left. I think the Bills had it right. 
 

My biggest gripe is McD using five of his six timeouts on Def/Special Teams. I mean, come on lol 

There was pretty clear confusion on the field for at least 3 of those defensive timeouts. I think it was the last one where KC actually snapped the ball while one of the corners wasn’t even facing the play and still talking the the LB about where they should be lining up. 
 

They had the one where an incomplete deep pass happened after the timeout, but that only happens because half the players have stopped running after the whistle. Some of those time outs may have actually been game savers. 

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Have seen Allen called for that exact play that Mahomes didn't get called for.  Had Mahomes not gotten called for the grounding earlier expect there's a reasonable chance KC does get called there (say reasonable, not that it's likely, intentional or not KC gets calls other teams don't get; just like Filly gets calls on the tush push that others don't get) but not after the controversy of the earlier call.  My 2 cents, YMMV.

It confused me because the broadcast didn’t even seem to care. But then again, half the time they’re too busy trying to work in a 13 second reference. 

[shrader]

Jayden Daniels just destroyed his left arm during meaningless football, down 38-7 late. Very ugly injury. 

[nfreeman]

I’ll say it again:  McD can coach my team as long as he wants.