Mr Peabody Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Further to my previous post here are some things I’d ask. 1. Probability of Tage, Jeff, Alex, and Dylan repeating their scoring? Impact if they don’t? 2. Probability of Devon leading our goalies to NHL average or better performance? 3. Probability of EJ and Conner raising our D to league average or better? 4. Probability of key players (name them) playing 70+ games. 5. Probability of Improvement in D offsetting insignificant drop off in O. 6. Probability of physical teams taking advantage of our young team. 7. Lastly, probability of Mr Peabody having another glass of Cab vs impact of waking up tomorrow without a headache. (hint: high probability high impact). TBH, number 6 was my biggest worry going in and it hasn’t been as bad as I thought (but still not good). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 48 minutes ago, Thorny said: We are on the same page if we are agreeing Adams needs to be proactive in addressing several holes this offseason. I do think several moderate reinforcements would go all long way, in an alchemical sense I think they’d represent more than the sum of their parts: in that the entire team will see benefit from them. We can’t shave on these additions and put ourselves in a position where *if everything goes to plan* we are the 16th seed. We can surround ourselves with mathematically reasonably conclusions yet if you are counting on 10 things that are pretty likely, not all of them are going to go right: regardless of them all being likely. This is an issue of *strategy*, not analysis. I’ve been trying to say this forever: I agree with quite a bit of KA’s analysis in a vacuum but it’s how he strategically goes about implementing things that loses me. If the playoffs are the mandate, it’s absolutely not good enough to structure things in such a way that things COULD go right. If it’s truly a hard line expectation, the roster needs to be configured in such a way that *some things can go wrong and we still make the playoffs*. That’s what people need to accept: we’ve gotten the roster to a point where success is theoretically possible. But it’s about the results. Isn’t it now, finally? If you are measuring a goal by the actual result, you need to put yourself in a position where that result is protected by failsafes. Our failsafes for some of our most risky bets this year included..rostering Eric Comrie, a non nhl er, who’d need to see a lot of action should Levi not break *crazy historical precedent*. Adams didn’t, hasn’t, managed the roster in such a way that actually had any sort of urgency towards making the playoffs. He hasn’t acted like it truly NEEDED to happen: he just made moves where it remained reasonably possible. That’s not going to cut it This exactly As the year goes on I feel like this wasn't even his original plan and due to that he's sort of dragged his feet on things due to a lack of conviction. Picture last year prior to the draft, the Sabres are making a push to deal their 1st or prospect to Carolina for Brett Pesce whom they already have extension plans cooking behind the scenes. The strategy being, get Pesce to sign an extension under 7.5mil, then you can use that to keep Dahlin at 10 mil which were the rumors floating around and you could bridge Power without issue. Then Pesce nullifies the deal so you move on to your 2nd favorite idea in Noah Hanifin. However CGY wants more than Carolina and Hanifin is giving CGY trouble over an extension. The talks seem to indicate Hanifin wants 8x8mil+ and that immediately creates a further wrench in any potential deal seeing as he'd be another LHD making 8mil+ and eventually Power would join them. With no other options abundantly open which interest the team, you go with plan B. Sign Clifton who's your favorite B/C level signing to fill in while not making it impossible to still get a Pesce or Hanifin later. However you now must overpay him a bit due to need and add more to Erik Johnson's offer because his purpose now has far more importance as a vet on the blueline. Then comes Dahlin; whose agent now plays the Sole Top 2 Dman card to force you to up the 10mil to 11mil. Likewise Power, who could of been bridged with the security of another Top 2 guy, is now demanding 7x8mil or something even worse like a 5 year contract. So now although you did create solid defensive depth through Stillman, Clague, E Johnson, R. Johnson, and Bryson; you never got that Top 4 piece you set out to get. So you leave space open and wait for something to shake and yet nothing does. A story about the offense: Offensively you believe you are mostly set, Greenway when healthy looked very good and some more experience should do wonders for the kid's line and even with a slight regression the Skinner-Thompson-Tuch line should still be great and Mitts gives you a backup Top 2 C for if Cozens or Thompson go down. Okposo is well respected and you want him to get 1000 games so you resign him for another year to help push the team forward. Girgensons has been a good soldier and has put up ok numbers so his return isn't problematic either. Krebs plays well with those two on the 4th line anyway. No one has offered you anything of note for Olofsson so why not hold onto him for depth and hopefully jettison him in season. However that 3rd line Winger position is being saved for one of the youngsters; Kulich or Rosen more than likely or maybe even Savoie! If so, maybe I'll cut my losses with Olofsson and just grab some vet off waivers to fill in when needed or better yet, bring back Jost from last season. He played well in his stint and is a good character; he can play if need be. ...... *****, Quinn is injured until January.... if I sign someone it may help us in the immediate term but then I'm forced to kick Olofsson out for nothing and he's a multi-time 20 goal scorer so that just seems stupid. So lets just let it roll, hopefully Olofsson bounces back and/or the youngsters light it up..... Our 18 year old rookie Zach Benson just out competed everyone vying for the winger job so we'll give him a shot, plus Savoie is hurt so we'll hang onto both of them since their Juniors team is a literal mess right now. ..... Olofsson still sucks, Tuch is banged up, Thompson is having his usual slow start and Cozens just punched a bear and had his face broken, patience Kevyn.... *****! Thompson just broke his freaking hand or wrist or something, at least Tuch is back and Cozens is playing in a bubble.... Maybe Patrick Kane could fix our disastrously bad Powerplay, oh look, Cozens is out of the bubble helmet and can actually stick handle again.... Woohoo Thompson is back and there goes Tuch and Skinner and Thompson looks like he's playing with a grenade.... Anyone want to score this year not name JJ Peterka or Casey Mittelstadt? Dahlin you don't count because your a defenseman but Owen where are you hiding your shot?..... So playoffs might not be in the cards this year... but have you seen UPL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4907215 How's this, I know the defense hasn't been upgraded however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, thewookie1 said: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4907215 How's this, I know the defense hasn't been upgraded however Dakota Joshua will be sought after if he hits the market. He would be a good pick up. Might have to overpay him. Jonathan Quick has played some good games for the Rangers and would probably need to be overpaid. A solid veteran. Sam Lafferty would be a good 4th liner, can play any position with some grit. I am not opposed to the idea floated around here of Skinner for Couture. Skinner is younger and can produce more but he has not helped develop a winning culture. The salaries could almost balance each other out. If Couture can’t play then LTIR is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 https://buffalohockeynow.com/2024/02/21/sabres-trade-fit-with-avalanche/# Karmanos has been at the past 2 Avalanche home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: https://buffalohockeynow.com/2024/02/21/sabres-trade-fit-with-avalanche/# Karmanos has been at the past 2 Avalanche home games. I have literally negative interest in Byram. Girard is at least somewhat interesting. Would rather try to get Manson cheaply in the off-season however 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 14 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I have literally negative interest in Byram. Girard is at least somewhat interesting. Would rather try to get Manson cheaply in the off-season however If we’re making a trade with the Avs for the deadline, there won’t be a rostered player coming back. It’ll be sell, baby. This team hurts my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 57 minutes ago, Weave said: If we’re making a trade with the Avs for the deadline, there won’t be a rostered player coming back. It’ll be sell, baby. This team hurts my heart. Well then I doubt we are scouting them regarding trading Mitts. Trading him for futures would likely cause chants for heads not just firings. Still don’t really have any interest in trading Mitts but in Colorado’s case I’d value Girard >>>> Byram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Peabody Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/latest-news/pittsburgh-penguins-ready-trade-every-player speaking of blowing it up… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 (edited) I have a feeling adams is going to trade for washed up logan couture bring another buffalo Player back home " Wants to be here " Edited February 22 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: another buffalo Player back home Guelph/London? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Guelph/London? Oh I thought he was from buffalo I've seen him A lot When the bills play national games. Maybe he's just a bill's fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Peterka and UPL have really been the bright lights this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Trade him now while he's high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 On 2/16/2024 at 2:06 PM, mjd1001 said: Ok. Blow the team up. Change coaches. Change GM's. They all may be valid points. But maybe its simpler than that. What is wrong/different with this team compared to last year's team, which was 1 point away from the playoffs? -This team is allowing less goals than last year. They are now middle-of-the-pack and actually improving the last few weeks. They have a goalie who not only has pretty good numbers, he passes the 'eye test' also. Scoring is the problem but: -Peterka is doing better than last year. Skinner is basically giving you close to the scoring of last year. Dahlin has less assists but is scoring more goals. Mitts is better offensively. Greenway and Okposo are better offensively. Basically, this team is equal to, or BETTER than last years team in MOST ways other than: Thompson scoring, Cozens scoring, and Tuch Scoring (Tuch isn't as big of an issue as the other 2, and it may be related to injury with him.) VO is off also, but his play is made up for basically by Peterka, and few think/thought VO was long for this team anyway. So yea, the results aren't what anyone wants....but its not the whole team. Much of the team is equal to last year or BETTER. The question may not be how or why to make wholesale changes, or blow everything up....but rather how/why are Thompson, Cozens, maybe Tuch and Power issues. I don't want to blow the whole team up yet....I don't want to make major changes yet. I want to fix Tage, Cozens, and Power (mostly) as those guys are 3 of your 'core 4 or 5'. If a coaching change or GM change 'fixes' those guys, then great. But I know when people say we have waited and endured 'too long' and just want 'something to be done', I'm not quite sure what coach...or GM...comes in here and just makes those guys better. Because, while the rest of the team is 'flawed', overall they are giving you want they did last year or in some cases are better than last year. I think quinn will be a good piece for next year, and you likely expect benson to improve. I'd be willing to buy-out skinner if it is reasonable. Tuch has trade value if you don't go that route. Skinner-Thompson-Tuch - Needs a shakeup somewhere. Skinner buy out only makes sense if you trade for someone or sign someone. A superstar forward is what is really needed. Quinn-Cozens-JJP - Cozens needs to play better but they never got much time together either. Benson-Mitts-??? - I don't know that you want to graduate a minors player here but if not, someone with some jam who can score. ???-???-Greenway - Need shut down players who can contribute offensively. See no reason to look at players like ZG, Krebs, Okposo. These are the types of players who don't have NTCs or they're more limited. D Dahlin Power Johnson Muel Jokiharju Open to trading a jokiharju, and i don't see anyone else in the pipeline who's going to contribute so figuring out how to improve, and add righties will be big. G UPL and Levi I don't see a reason to keep levi in the minors, but i see the side wanting a backup. I think levi getting games in rochester will help, and ideally he's ready to rock for like 30 next year. He was handled very poorly this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 I have no issues with greenway being on the 3rd line Probably a year too early but Benson with Tage - Tuch Greenway - Mitts - Kulich / Savoie *****. Krebs. ***** or Greenway - Krebs - Mitts And all new 4th line Dahlin. XXX Power Samuelsson Johnson. Clifton the XXX on the blue line with Dahlin is the most important piece to add. Cannot ***** it up. If it cost 3 1st round pieces. ....just do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 34 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: I have no issues with greenway being on the 3rd line Probably a year too early but Benson with Tage - Tuch Greenway - Mitts - Kulich / Savoie *****. Krebs. ***** or Greenway - Krebs - Mitts And all new 4th line Dahlin. XXX Power Samuelsson Johnson. Clifton the XXX on the blue line with Dahlin is the most important piece to add. Cannot ***** it up. If it cost 3 1st round pieces. ....just do it If you assume JJP and Quinn coming back, you are essentially rolling out the same 9, with the minor change of putting in another untested kid in place of Skinner? Ugh. Or are you rolling big and JJP/Quinn get moved? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 On 2/22/2024 at 1:33 PM, Weave said: If you assume JJP and Quinn coming back, you are essentially rolling out the same 9, with the minor change of putting in another untested kid in place of Skinner? Ugh. Or are you rolling big and JJP/Quinn get moved? I'm rolling big by trading 2 prospects and the #1 draft pick but not Quinn and Peterka. I have a feeling they, aling with cozens will be their #1 line next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, Weave said: 27 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? No. If they pull upsets for the rest of the season, get to the playoffs and win a series.... then Donny can stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 38 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? No, but that is because I do not believe in Firing Granato or blowing things up at this point. I think this team needs surgery with a scalpel, no a sledgehammer. I DO believe in making a big trade in the offseason for a top 25 D-man in the league (multiple prospects if that is needed), having Tage, Quinn, Tuch and Cozens fully healthy starting next year (keep Cozens more at wing and keep Tage off of the PK) and hopefully bringing in a highly paid/highly effective assistant specialist to help out. This group of Defensemen is SO YOUNG that they are going to gradually get better as time (seasons) go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 27 Author Report Share Posted February 27 43 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? It would not change my view at all. A 4 game win streak when they are 10 points out of 8th would not move the needle. All this has proven to me is that they MAY have a #1 goalie. A MAJOR trade or 2 has got to happen and I don't see Adams as they guy that can get it done. As far as coaching, IF they were to continue to play like they did 2 nights ago (win or lose) the rest of the season, I would give it a thought. The fact that I see that performance once every 10 games is sickening though. Something is very wrong with coaching to only see glimpses of what they are capable of in the effort department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: IF the Sabres pull off the upset tonight. Will it change your view of the team ? From firing Granato or blowing the whole thing up? Why would it? If they make the playoffs, absolutely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: If they pull upsets for the rest of the season, get to the playoffs and win a series.... then Donny can stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.