Brawndo Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach. And they have to forfeit a pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Seems likely that Ottawa screwing up the Dadonov trade to Vegas and having it subsequently costing them a first round pick was a straw-that-broke-the camel's-back moment for the new Ottawa ownership relative to Dorion, or simply a good catalyst to replace him as they may have wanted to do anyway. Something like that. No way these two events being announced on the same day are a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, matter2003 said: that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach. Not really 1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year. 2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended. 3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Not really 1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year. 2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended. 3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. He did a lot of dumb and short sighted things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 So let me get this straight The NHL punishes Ottawa for a trade but the Blackhawks get nothing. Makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Ha my dad said to me last night he doesn’t think Dorian and DJ Smith will last much longer in Ottawa. Have to get him to buy a lotto ticket.😀 Apparently the new owner is high on Patrick Roy so he might be a name of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 A bunch of high profile errors plus a new owner, it was only a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: A Chiarelli- Ralph Krueger tandem would do wonder for Ottawa😝 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 The entire Dadonov thing is ridiculous. If Cap Friendly has NMC details for individual players surely Vegas has to share some negligence somehow in that trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: So let me get this straight The NHL punishes Ottawa for a trade but the Blackhawks get nothing. Makes sense Because the NHL is a crappy league with a great sport. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Because the NHL is a crappy league with a great sport. Very salient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Not really 1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year. 2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended. 3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. Plus, he’s a Melnyk hire, who had no GM experience beforehand. He was a head scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: And they have to forfeit a pick. ...and now we know the rest of the story. As an outsider, it looks to me like he has done a very good job in Ottawa despite some high profile mistakes. Someone will hire him soon. Edited November 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: ...and now we know the rest of the story. As an outsider, it looks to me like he has done a very good job in Ottawa despite some high profile mistakes. Someone will hire him soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Dorion's resume Drafted Stutzle, Sanderson, Pinto, Thachuk, and Batherson creating a solid long-term core with Chabot. Added Chychrun, Giroux and Tarasenko for veteran leadership. Added young talent Norris and Joseph to supplement his core. He also actively worked to add goaltending in Forsberg and Korpisalo. This is a good team he has built that just missed the playoffs last year, and like the Sabres, they have a real chance to make the playoffs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Sens new owner is pissed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. Sounds like the NHL failed to disclose some material facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, ... said: The entire Dadonov thing is ridiculous. If Cap Friendly has NMC details for individual players surely Vegas has to share some negligence somehow in that trade. Capfriendly didn’t have Dadonov’s NTC. They usually get all the contract details, but not always. It was Ottawa’s responsibility to inform Vegas, and they negligently did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) I think losing a first round pick over this incident that happened almost 2 years ago is a joke. A fine should have been the punishment. And why did it take the NHL this long to figure it out? I understand why the new owner is pissed. Dorian’s days were numbered ever since Andlauer brought his buddy Staois in above Dorian. Smith will be next out the door. Edited November 1, 2023 by Flashsabre 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. Previous Sens ownership was pretty good at "forgetting" to inform partners of details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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