Taro T Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What would have the Sabres done if Sheahan had been healthy? Would Bjork have gotten waived? I understand that Pilut was exempt from Waivers, but does anyone really believe the someone else would have claimed Fitz? Expect Bjork would've been waived. The more interesting question is would Pilut have been waived over Bjork had Okposo been 100% and the team not heading for a long road trip after their 2nd game in 3 days to start the season. Still believe it makes more sense to carry 8 D, but they aren't going to do that if it means possibly only carrying 12 healthy F's on a long road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, inkman said: Pilut is in Rochester because he’s waived eligible (somehow). Kinda surprised Lybushkin (sp?) isn’t in the top 4 D. I don’t like Joki there. He’s average at best. Bryson, uh, isn’t. Ah I see. They have to play Bryson because, if they sent him down and he got claimed, we’d be in the unenviable position of needing to suit up a better player. Makes total sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ah I see. They have to play Bryson because, if they sent him down and he got claimed, we’d be in the unenviable position of needing to suit up a better player. Makes total sense. It’s nowhere near that simple. Let’s say a “good” #6 dman is worth “55 internet points” Let’s say the Sabres rated Bryson “58” over the course of last season and “52” during training camp. Let’s say they ranked Pilut a 55 during camp. It’s no sure thing that when the puck drops Pilut is going to be better. Alternatively, you are going to use your #8 dman over the course of the year. You waive Bryson to play Pilut and all of a sudden that #8 is Chase Priskie, a training camp 49 and a career 44. Is Pilut so much better than Bryson you are going to throw away your depth? Pilut will get his chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 10:48 PM, Doohickie said: You make jokes? Huh. 39 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ah I see. They have to play Bryson because, if they sent him down and he got claimed, we’d be in the unenviable position of needing to suit up a better player. Makes total sense. 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: It’s nowhere near that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, dudacek said: It’s nowhere near that simple. I do in fact understand the calculation. The secret though is that, sometimes, and I know this is crazy, I like to pretend I’m just a fan who can, obviously so darn foolishly, think primarily about wanting to see the guys who’re going to help us win NOW, the most, suit up. I understand the through-the-eyes-of-the-GM lens is more preferred and common. A break from it once in a while isn’t the worst thing, reminds me a bit of wrestling fans who are always watching by way of a Booking lens rather than as consumers of a product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Is power gonna be a game changer? (pardon me i dont follow the league very closely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Brawndo said: Okposo will end up replacing JJP I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, calti said: Is power gonna be a game changer? (pardon me i dont follow the league very closely) He's drawn comparisons to Cale Makar who had an outstanding rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, calti said: Is power gonna be a game changer? (pardon me i dont follow the league very closely) If his Sabres stint last season (and taking over Team Canada's blue line) are any indication... maybe not a game changer in terms of "wow", but more of a game changer in terms of control. A player where you look up... and he's got the puck again and he's making any easy pass to safety, then trailing the rush and establishing possession in the o-zone. Smart pinches and occasional carries below the goal line with the puck. Aggressive but not Makar-high-speed or young Erik Karlsson aggressive. Defensively he's very sound, too.0 The thing I'll watch is early is how he handles NHL forecheckers. Last season, no one really attacked him (he was a rookie in his first few games), and there definitely isn't the same level of hitting in the Olympics. This season, he'll be a test/focal point of opponents to see how he handles pressure and hits. Does he avoid contact and start making poor passes (like Pilut did after his initial first few weeks)? Or does he continue to play sound and smart with elite vision? We'll learn quickly, because I'm betting Ottawa dumps a few pucks into his corner to go make a hit first (Austin Watson, for example) and worry about puck retrieval second. Then, it's up to Power how he adjusts. I remember that Dahlin went through that phase where everyone was hitting him and he still made plays but he also got tight, and he didn't really break fully back out of it until last season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Doohickie said: He's drawn comparisons to Cale Makar who had an outstanding rookie year. Nothing against power but makar is the bobby orr of this generation. I cant see any player come close to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Doohickie said: This is the Tim Murray mentality. It doesn't take into account chemistry, character or culture. It isn't just a player's stats that matter, it's how they will fit in with the rest of the team. No it isn't. That's the opposite extreme. There is a middle path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 hours ago, LGR4GM said: This is a weak argument for just about anything in the NHL. Teams make bad decisions almost constantly. Also, Colorado waving this guy is "oh we should add him" but your response to those pointing out Sheahan is similar is "Seattle didn't even want to keep him". I don't believe Sheahan is similar at all. We can disagree on that, but it doesn't invalidate an argument if I have a different evaluation of a player's worth than you do, it just means we disagree. There are no absolute rights and wrongs in these things but you never want to acknowledge that so whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Doohickie said: He's drawn comparisons to Cale Makar who had an outstanding rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I don't believe Sheahan is similar at all. We can disagree on that, but it doesn't invalidate an argument if I have a different evaluation of a player's worth than you do, it just means we disagree. There are no absolute rights and wrongs in these things but you never want to acknowledge that so whatever. Oh it's not you disagreeing with Sheahan, idc about Sheahan. It's you claiming that 1 team dumping a player is some type of evidence that player isn't good while in the same breath claiming we should pick up a player another team dumped. It's illogical. Basically I'm saying get better reasoning instead of varying your criteria because... idk you just do that. 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I don't believe Sheahan is similar at all. We can disagree on that, but it doesn't invalidate an argument if I have a different evaluation of a player's worth than you do, it just means we disagree. There are no absolute rights and wrongs in these things but you never want to acknowledge that so whatever. That's rich coming from you. Bill Gates rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 One more sleep until the Sabres start their season 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 11 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: The thing I'll watch is early is how he handles NHL forecheckers. Last season, no one really attacked him (he was a rookie in his first few games), and there definitely isn't the same level of hitting in the Olympics. This season, he'll be a test/focal point of opponents to see how he handles pressure and hits. Does he avoid contact and start making poor passes (like Pilut did after his initial first few weeks)? Or does he continue to play sound and smart with elite vision? We'll learn quickly, because I'm betting Ottawa dumps a few pucks into his corner to go make a hit first (Austin Watson, for example) and worry about puck retrieval second. Then, it's up to Power how he adjusts. I remember that Dahlin went through that phase where everyone was hitting him and he still made plays but he also got tight, and he didn't really break fully back out of it until last season. What I've observed so far is that teams have tried to rattle him but he calmly absorbs to the hit, retains possession, and moves the puck. Will other teams turn up the pressure? We'll see. He uses size and positioning to play the game at his own pace, and forces opponents to play at that pace too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHSN1965 Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Il y a 12 heures, Buffalonill a dit : Rien contre le pouvoir, mais le makar est le bobby orr de cette génération. Je ne vois aucun joueur s'approcher de lui On ne peut pas comparer Makar à Bobby Orr. Makar n’a jamais été le meilleur défenseur. Il n’a même pas été le meilleur joueur de son équipe. Bobby Orr a gagné le championnat des pointeurs de la ligue … 2 fois! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 hours ago, LGR4GM said: That's rich coming from you. Bill Gates rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 22 hours ago, calti said: Is power gonna be a game changer? (pardon me i dont follow the league very closely) This coming year? Hopefully a positive impact player. Long term? I think so. He better be - he’s a first overall pick. He needs to be a game changer/ impact player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: This coming year? Hopefully a positive impact player. Long term? I think so. He better be - he’s a first overall pick. He needs to be a game changer/ impact player He'll be an impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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