WildCard Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Goalie market shrinking - Talbot, Markstrom, Lungqvist, Khudobin and Holtby all signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, WildCard said: they said on nhl network, 3 year around 3.5m per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Or a goalie. They can't be in on Markstrom? No, most will like what they are trying to do in goal and at defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, tom webster said: It won’t be unanimous, it never is but something will drop soon. Be patient. Uh oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, tom webster said: No, most will like what they are trying to do in goal and at defense. Do. There is no try. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tom webster said: No, most will like what they are trying to do in goal and at defense. Are we going to hear that the Pegulas signed Tre White to play for both the Bills and sabres as part of his extension? problem solved in Net! Edited October 9, 2020 by apuszczalowski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruff Around The Edges Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Matt Murray 4 years 6.25M AAV to Ottawa: Anton Khudobin 3 years, 3.5M AAV back to Dallas. Tax advantages help. The evidence is overwhelming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: Matt Murray 4 years 6.25M AAV to Ottawa: Anton Khudobin 3 years, 3.5M AAV back to Dallas. Tax advantages help. The evidence is overwhelming Do you mean exchange rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Question. Tyler Johnson has been waived. Once he clears waivers, how does TB move him. Sending him to the minors only saves 1.1 per season. Buy outs are done I think. So what does TB do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: Matt Murray 4 years 6.25M AAV to Ottawa: Anton Khudobin 3 years, 3.5M AAV back to Dallas. Tax advantages help. The evidence is overwhelming Khudobin is 34 Murray is 26 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Question. Tyler Johnson has been waived. Once he clears waivers, how does TB move him. Sending him to the minors only saves 1.1 per season. Buy outs are done I think. So what does TB do? You assume he clears waivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruff Around The Edges Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, LGR4GM said: Khudobin is 34 Murray is 26 One of several examples. Teams in Texas, Florida, Nevada have major cap advantages over teams in higher tax areas..Can add up to 6-7M advantage, Think of what teams can do with that extra cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Ruff Around The Edges said: One of several examples. Teams in Texas, Florida, Nevada have major cap advantages over teams in higher tax areas..Can add up to 6-7M advantage, Think of what teams can do with that extra cap space. Apparently not much because the only one to win anything in the last decade is Tampa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Question. Tyler Johnson has been waived. Once he clears waivers, how does TB move him. Sending him to the minors only saves 1.1 per season. Buy outs are done I think. So what does TB do? Pray someone claims him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: One of several examples. Teams in Texas, Florida, Nevada have major cap advantages over teams in higher tax areas..Can add up to 6-7M advantage, Think of what teams can do with that extra cap space. This has been debunked several times on here. The only advantage really is an exchange advantage of US based teams over Canadian based teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: One of several examples. Teams in Texas, Florida, Nevada have major cap advantages over teams in higher tax areas..Can add up to 6-7M advantage, Think of what teams can do with that extra cap space. Let's see, Stanley Cup winners by state since Carolina won in 2005 California Michigan Pennsylvania Illinois Massachusetts California Illinois California Illinois Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Washington DC Missouri Florida Edited October 9, 2020 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruff Around The Edges Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Apparently not much because the only one to win anything in the last decade is Tampa. Dallas and Vegas were in this years Final 4 too. It does not guarantee success I do agree there, but I do think it is a big help for these franchises and a determinant to say, Buffalo, Winnipeg and other smaller markets in higher tax situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Apparently not much because the only one to win anything in the last decade is Tampa. To be fair, Vegas has been one of the best teams in the NHL and has been to Western conference finals and Cup finals in their short existence, and Dallas was also in the Finals too. Its not like they haven't been really good just because they weren't the 1 team every year that gets the cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: Dallas and Vegas were in this years Final 4 too. It does not guarantee success I do agree there, but I do think it is a big help for these franchises and a determinant to say, Buffalo, Winnipeg and other smaller markets in higher tax situations. So because this year 3 teams from low tax states did something it shows an advantage? As opposed to all the other years where high tax states field good teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) - - - More non blue checked tweets! Edited October 9, 2020 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: One of several examples. Teams in Texas, Florida, Nevada have major cap advantages over teams in higher tax areas..Can add up to 6-7M advantage, Think of what teams can do with that extra cap space. this isn't exactly true. if a player makes his home base in florida as a lot of them do their income is based on that states rate. you see guys getting signing bonuses and those are usually the big chunks of their salary which would be at the florida rate. game checks get taxed in the cities and states they play in. as an example look at what new york tried to do with jeter years and years back. he claimed florida as his home so his salary wouldn't be taxed in new york. new york tried to go after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: So because this year 3 teams from low tax states did something it shows an advantage? As opposed to all the other years where high tax states field good teams. Tampa has been one of the leagues better teams for years, Vegas has had one season where they weren't in the top 4 in their short existence. Dallas has been one of the better teams during the regular season in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: Dallas and Vegas were in this years Final 4 too. It does not guarantee success I do agree there, but I do think it is a big help for these franchises and a determinant to say, Buffalo, Winnipeg and other smaller markets in higher tax situations. 2019 Nevada, California, Massachusetts, Carolina 2018 Winnipeg, Nevada, Florida, Washington DC 2017 Ottawa, Pennsylvania, California, Tennessee 2016 California, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missouri 2015 Florida, NY, Illinois, California I am going to stop now since there isn't a correlation between making it to the conference finals and being from a 0 state income tax state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Ho, hmmm. This happens when there is nothing else to talk about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, apuszczalowski said: Tampa has been one of the leagues better teams for years, Vegas has had one season where they weren't in the top 4 in their short existence. Dallas has been one of the better teams during the regular season in the league But the argument is this gives them a permanent advantage. Yet if we review things, they aren't always good or even in the conversation. Clearly the advantage is highly limited if at all. Just now, LGR4GM said: 2019 Nevada, California, Massachusetts, Carolina 2018 Winnipeg, Nevada, Florida, Washington DC 2017 Ottawa, Pennsylvania, California, Tennessee 2016 California, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missouri 2015 Florida, NY, Illinois, California I am going to stop now since there isn't a correlation between making it to the conference finals and being from a 0 state income tax state. 5 of 20 teams from low income or no income tax states. Again, if this were a real advantage why don't we see it more and why is it that half of the teams from those low income states continually suck. Coyotes, Panthers, Dallas has only been good once through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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