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Wow, so much for McDaniel be so much better than everyone else in the league. Crosby destroys him in that link

But McDavid is flying solo basically. Crosby has better help.

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But McDavid is flying solo basically. Crosby has better help.

And Crosby is also better than McDavid.

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Hey Charlie,

 

Did the auto correct kick in for McDaniel, or are you just being Charlie?

Just being Charlie. I saw it elsewhere, thought it was funny

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Last year his ppg was 0.61 (82 games)

This year his ppg is 0.90 (52 games)

He needs 3 points to tie his career high of 50. 

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Stepping in to the den of Samson lovers.

Do  I tread lightly?

Nay.  The truth must be had.

So, last night was the first time since the 10 game streak that I noticed Samson standing in the front the enemy goalie on the PP rather than off to the side.  Did I not watch all of the games inbetween?

FWIW, I do like Sam.  I think when I see games like last night I wonder "where is this Samson all of the time?" and become sad for the team.

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9 minutes ago, ... said:

Stepping in to the den of Samson lovers.

Do  I tread lightly?

Nay.  The truth must be had.

So, last night was the first time since the 10 game streak that I noticed Samson standing in the front the enemy goalie on the PP rather than off to the side.  Did I not watch all of the games inbetween?

FWIW, I do like Sam.  I think when I see games like last night I wonder "where is this Samson all of the time?" and become sad for the team.

Do you go to the games?  I'm not trying to poke holes in your analysis, rather I'd like to understand it. Maybe in person observation lends itself to another type of conclusion. 

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Not frequently enough.  I was at the Chicago game last and I wasn't terribly impressed with Samson at that game.  A lot of my analysis is the eye-test vs. what is said about him.  I know his numbers look okay.  

It's odd.  I do like the person.  The player I like on certain nights.  My concern is that fans and the front office are hanging their hats on his presence when I don't think he rises to those expectations consistently enough.

Like I said in the GDT yesterday, if he played consistently like he did last night, I would love him like the rest.

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I'm liking Reinhart playing with Mittelstadt. Those two guys have the talent, passing ability, and drive to be a formidable duo in the future. It may even lead to (dare I even say it?) depth scoring.

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1 hour ago, ... said:

So, last night was the first time since the 10 game streak that I noticed Samson standing in the front the enemy goalie on the PP rather than off to the side.  Did I not watch all of the games inbetween?

FWIW, I do like Sam.  I think when I see games like last night I wonder "where is this Samson all of the time?" and become sad for the team.

I think they pretty much overhauled the PP (and about GD time!).  Eichel wasn't in his usual spot either.

It looked greatly improved IMHO.

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2 hours ago, ... said:

Stepping in to the den of Samson lovers.

Do  I tread lightly?

Nay.  The truth must be had.

So, last night was the first time since the 10 game streak that I noticed Samson standing in the front the enemy goalie on the PP rather than off to the side.  Did I not watch all of the games inbetween?

FWIW, I do like Sam.  I think when I see games like last night I wonder "where is this Samson all of the time?" and become sad for the team.

Last night was the same Sam we've been seeing for the last ~90 games he's played. 

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13 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

I think they pretty much overhauled the PP (and about GD time!).  Eichel wasn't in his usual spot either.

It looked greatly improved IMHO.

In what way?

Eichel was in his same halfwall spot he's always in. It was still a 1-3-1 set up. There was some better spacing, a little more movement... but certainly not an overhaul.

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1 hour ago, jame said:

In what way?

Eichel was in his same halfwall spot he's always in. It was still a 1-3-1 set up. There was some better spacing, a little more movement... but certainly not an overhaul. 

I thought Eichel was not in the same half-wall spot -- I thought he spent the bulk of his PP time at the right point.  I also thought Reino was set up in front of the net, not behind it to the goalie's right.

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2 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

I thought Eichel was not in the same half-wall spot -- I thought he spent the bulk of his PP time at the right point.  I also thought Reino was set up in front of the net, not behind it to the goalie's right.

My impression, too, although I watched the game.

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24 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

I thought Eichel was not in the same half-wall spot -- I thought he spent the bulk of his PP time at the right point.  I also thought Reino was set up in front of the net, not behind it to the goalie's right.

I'll have to re-watch to see if what you are seeing is simply a symptom of entry/possession. There was nothing structural different about what they were setting up last night. The first PP Eichel was set up on the half wall. Reino has been playing net front this entire season. He cycles down below the goal line when the half wall has the puck, and to the net front when the puck works to the point.

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54 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

I thought Eichel was not in the same half-wall spot -- I thought he spent the bulk of his PP time at the right point.  I also thought Reino was set up in front of the net, not behind it to the goalie's right.

This is what I saw too. Other difference was Dahlin at the other point rather than Risto.

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1 minute ago, Samson's Flow said:

This is what I saw too. Other difference was Dahlin at the other point rather than Risto.

Dahlin sees the ice better than Risto and can make passes without looking which I think Risto would struggle with. 

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5 hours ago, ... said:

Stepping in to the den of Samson lovers.

Do  I tread lightly?

Nay.  The truth must be had.

So, last night was the first time since the 10 game streak that I noticed Samson standing in the front the enemy goalie on the PP rather than off to the side.  Did I not watch all of the games inbetween?

FWIW, I do like Sam.  I think when I see games like last night I wonder "where is this Samson all of the time?" and become sad for the team.

1st game it wasn't Ristolainen nor Eichel throwing the shot from the point at the net on PP1.  IMHO That isn't merely correlation; that's causation.

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12 minutes ago, Taro T said:

1st game it wasn't Ristolainen nor Eichel throwing the shot from the point at the net on PP1.  IMHO That isn't merely correlation; that's causation.

Are suggesting Samson is afraid of Risto's and Eichel's shot?  Or is it that Samson figures either will shoot wide and standing off to the side gives him a better chance at a tip-in? Other?

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11 minutes ago, ... said:

Are suggesting Samson is afraid of Risto's and Eichel's shot?  Or is it that Samson figures either will shoot wide and standing off to the side gives him a better chance at a tip-in? Other?

Not saying he's afraid of standing in front of their shots, though he's smart enough that he should be. ;)  (Especially when Eichel is using the heavy lumber on the PP.  He goes from an 87 to IIRC a 102 on the PP.)

Would more expect that he believes he's got a better chance of reacting to their shots from the side than being directly in front AND that guys like Pilut & Dahlin that don't have as strong a shot need the better screen to score.

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9 hours ago, nfreeman said:

I thought Eichel was not in the same half-wall spot -- I thought he spent the bulk of his PP time at the right point.  I also thought Reino was set up in front of the net, not behind it to the goalie's right.

Incorrect.

1st PP : you may be mistaking a left circle face off, in which Eichel takes the RW position and a puck rush later in the PP... but as soon as possession is established, it’s everyone in their normal spots (Eichel half wall, Reinhart net front). Take a look.

 

2nd PP: you are correct that Eichel is on the other side, but i think this is much more a symptom of the entry and puck retrieval than any intentional set up (the first PP supports this... although... one could argue that Housley saw something on the first PP and how they covered Erod on the goal and opted to put Eichel in that spot... but that’s giving Phil a lot of credit for an in game insight).

 

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