Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I believe he occupies a tier with Orr and Coffey when you era-adjust scoring, and those three stand far above anyone else. EK is a generational defenseman. And don't look now, but he went from mediocre defensively to great defensively in the past 2 years. Didn't mean to lobby or anything, Eleven, make sure it's YOUR guy you pick. Here comes Brent Burns. I'd take him over Malkin. Who else you got? Price? That's it. I think Malkin, Karlsson, Price is my next tier. Not sure the order. But I'd put Malkin 3. The Kid, McJesus, Shrek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Wouldn't put Malkin in my top 5, but that may be just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Here comes Brent Burns. Price? That's it. I think Malkin, Karlsson, Price is my next tier. Not sure the order. Call me when Brent produces 15-20 more points than the next highest D for 5 of 6 seasons (had 14 in 17 before Cooke murdered his ankle for the other one), not outscores EK by 5 but playing 5 more games than him one time :nana: Also here's this so we don't have to go to the last page. 1.) dudacek: Connor McDavid (2, +1) 2.) Sabres Fan in NS: Sidney Crosby (6, +4) 3.) Eleven: Patrick Kane (1, -2) 4.) Flagg: Erik Karlsson (17, +13) 5.) Derrico: Brent Burns (93, +88) 6.) nfreeman: 7.) EichSnipe: 8.) Taro T: 9.) GASabresFan: 10.) ubkev: 11.) Thorny: 12.) WildCard: 13.) sabills: 14.) North Buffalo: 15.) TrueBlueGED: 16.) IrwinNelson: 17.) Sabres79: 18.) Sabres79: 19.) IrwinNelson 20.) TrueBlueGED: 21.) North Buffalo: 22.) sabills: 23.) WildCard: 24.) Thorny: 25.) ubkev: 26.) GASabresFan: 27.) Taro T: 28.) EichSnipe: 29.) nfreeman: 30.) Derrico: 31.) Flagg: 32.) Eleven: 33.) Sabres Fan in NS: 34.) dudacek Edited July 15, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Wouldn't put Malkin in my top 5, but that may be just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm exaggerating a hair but he generally cruises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) I don't actually see Burns anywhere near Karlsson.... It's ridonkulous that Sid was 6 last time. That must speak to the confusion over team building/potential/BPA last time. Edited July 14, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Wouldn't put Malkin in my top 5, but that may be just me I wouldn't put Stamkos or Kucherov in my top 5 either :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't put Stamkos or Kucherov in my top 5 either :P True, but Stammer's sample size last season is way smaller, and an argument could be made for Kuch. Though I'm not going to make it. Edited July 14, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't actually see Burns anywhere near Karlsson.... It's ridonkulous that Sid was 6 last time. That must speak to the confusion over team building/potential/BPA last time. Partly, but think about where the Penguins were then. Sid was a lot closer to his injuries, they had just went for their 6th disappointing playoffs in a row, articles every week about how that team ruined what should have been 3+ cup careers for the two centers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Partly, but think about where the Penguins were then. Sid was a lot closer to his injuries, they had just went for their 6th disappointing playoffs in a row, articles every week about how that team ruined what should have been 3+ cup careers for the two centers. True, but he was coming off back to back basically full seasons, of 104 points, and 84 in 77 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 True, but he was coming off back to back basically full seasons, of 104 points, and 84 in 77 games. That second one is probably it - "team building" pushes the 26 year old back 2 spots, and finishing 3rd in the art ross race goes the other three :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 That second one is probably it - "team building" pushes the 26 year old back 2 spots, and finishing 3rd in the art ross race goes the other three :P Haha fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Call me at midnight when 11 picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Call me at midnight when 11 picks I'll be asleep til 1:30am. If I don't pick by 8:30pm then you're waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Only because Hdgsn hasn't gone yet You got a d in there someplace. It's Hgsn!! And don't you forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Hopefully Eleven checks in before bed. Not as a response to him, but just in general, how about we put a 24 hour limit starting from when the pick before you is made? If you take more than 24 hours to make a pick the guy behind you makes it for you, and then makes their next one too. And a good thing that helped last time - if you think you aren't going to be around for an extended period of time, you can PM me or anyone else who is on the board a lot and give them a list of players in order you'd like to take if still available and they can let us know in here and we'll mark it down and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 That would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hopefully Eleven checks in before bed. Not as a response to him, but just in general, how about we put a 24 hour limit starting from when the pick before you is made? If you take more than 24 hours to make a pick the guy behind you makes it for you, and then makes their next one too. And a good thing that helped last time - if you think you aren't going to be around for an extended period of time, you can PM me or anyone else who is on the board a lot and give them a list of players in order you'd like to take if still available and they can let us know in here and we'll mark it down and move on. That would be me. NS open for offers to trade the 3rd overall pick, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 That would be me. NS open for offers to trade the 3rd overall pick, You're the guy in front of him, not behind ;) I'm not worried about Eleven though, he still has a lot of time and seems to post in certain discrete blocks of time. Just in general, emergencies happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hopefully Eleven checks in before bed. Not as a response to him, but just in general, how about we put a 24 hour limit starting from when the pick before you is made? If you take more than 24 hours to make a pick the guy behind you makes it for you, and then makes their next one too. And a good thing that helped last time - if you think you aren't going to be around for an extended period of time, you can PM me or anyone else who is on the board a lot and give them a list of players in order you'd like to take if still available and they can let us know in here and we'll mark it down and move on. It shouldn't be the guy behind you picking for you. But anybody following him on the clock should be able to go once that pick before them has been made. Realizing we aren't picking a fantasy team, but still each "owner" should pick his own team, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Taro, what do you mean by that? I'm groggy and not really following haha I'll cautiously agree that it'd be fun to compare the groups of players we wind up taking, but like you mention, when making your selection just focus on the already specified parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Taro, what do you mean by that? I'm groggy and not really following haha I'll cautiously agree that it'd be fun to compare the groups of players we wind up taking, but like you mention, when making your selection just focus on the already specified parameters. Hey do we pm you with our picks our just list them here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hey do we pm you with our picks our just list them here? I'd prefer a PM please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Taro, what do you mean by that? I'm groggy and not really following haha I'll cautiously agree that it'd be fun to compare the groups of players we wind up taking, but like you mention, when making your selection just focus on the already specified parameters. Ya, I mean realistically it's more like we are working together rather than in competition. We are trying to create the most accurately ordered list as possible. (Or, at least, what could seem to be - always a level of subjectivity) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'd prefer a PM please! will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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