Taro T Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hendrix beats any guitarist in any sort of stand-off. End of story. Would love to see duelling Voodoo Chile's. One playing behind the back would be insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 But is he on Prince's level as a musician? I don't know much about Prince. I've never heard anything like the scales Hendrix used in certain situations, the rules he broke and when he broke them, and the effect on the music he knew doing that was going to have. I've never heard another human being capable of doing that on six strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Prince's vocal range, and musicianship are pretty damn incredible. And the fact that he plays every damn instrument on the stage is awesome to me. They are both musical gods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Prince's vocal range, and musicianship are pretty damn incredible. And the fact that he plays every damn instrument on the stage is awesome to me. They are both musical gods. Dont forget the pancakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hendrix beats any guitarist in any sort of stand-off. End of story. I have always hated art as competition. Even if I liked someone more than Jimi (which I do), I would never say they "beat" him. I just happen to like him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I have always hated art as competition. Even if I liked someone more than Jimi (which I do), I would never say they "beat" him. I just happen to like him more. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) I have always hated art as competition. Even if I liked someone more than Jimi (which I do), I would never say they "beat" him. I just happen to like him more. This makes a lot of sense - Hendrix is the only guy that I like to call objectively better at what he does than everyone else. And it may be foolish to do, but that's how I feel. And I also prefer other guitarists to him, I just don't think they're as talented/gifted. Edited May 11, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) You're a concept album guy, aren't you?The Who quadrophennia This makes a lot of sense - Hendrix is the only guy that I like to call objectively better at what he does than everyone else. And it may be foolish to do, but that's how I feel. And I also prefer other guitarists to him, I just don't think they're as talented/gifted. True... Jim Morrison and Roger Waters were great poets. Paul Simon a great diddy writer... Edited May 11, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 The Who quadrophennia True... Jim Morrison and Roger Waters were great poets. Paul Simon a great diddy writer... Who's Next! "Jim Morrison, the guys a drunken buffoon masquerading as a poet! Give me The Guess Who. They have the courage to be drunken buffoons! And that makes them poetic!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Who's Next! "Jim Morrison, the guys a drunken buffoon masquerading as a poet! Give me The Guess Who. They have the courage to be drunken buffoons! And that makes them poetic!" I love The Guess Who. Jim Morrison was a . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 This makes a lot of sense - Hendrix is the only guy that I like to call objectively better at what he does than everyone else. And it may be foolish to do, but that's how I feel. And I also prefer other guitarists to him, I just don't think they're as talented/gifted. There were alot of guitarists who could do what Jimmy did. What Jimmy had was what Swamp alluded to, he had the artistic style that set him apart. He wasn't better. He had a mesmerizing style. If Jeff Beck had any charisma to him they'd call him a god too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 There were alot of guitarists who could do what Jimmy did. What Jimmy had was what Swamp alluded to, he had the artistic style that set him apart. He wasn't better. He had a mesmerizing style. If Jeff Beck had any charisma to him they'd call him a god too. I'm pretty sure Jimi made up his own arpeggios mid-jam that nobody has used since. I don't hear other guitarists do stuff like that, ya know? And his base level skills at doing everything from leading to rhythm, with the creativity he employed, was jaw-dropping. Especially when he used his thumb on E and thus was able to do both at the same time. I think there were guitarists who could pick one aspect of guitar playing and do it better than Jimi could but they fell woefully short of him in the other areas. Page and Clapton could rival his licks, EVH could shred harder, but they couldn't touch Jimi in all of the other areas, nor could they pull it all together like he did. Combining his flair, sound, those Marshalls, the stage presence, and everything else, truly mind-blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Is Jimi Hendrix the consensus guy we were looking for? Who doesn't like Hendrix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm pretty sure Jimi made up his own arpeggios mid-jam that nobody has used since. I don't hear other guitarists do stuff like that, ya know? And his base level skills at doing everything from leading to rhythm, with the creativity he employed, was jaw-dropping. Especially when he used his thumb on E and thus was able to do both at the same time. I think there were guitarists who could pick one aspect of guitar playing and do it better than Jimi could but they fell woefully short of him in the other areas. Page and Clapton could rival his licks, EVH could shred harder, but they couldn't touch Jimi in all of the other areas, nor could they pull it all together like he did. Combining his flair, sound, those Marshalls, the stage presence, and everything else, truly mind-blowing. I'm thinking maybe you are limiting yourself to the more mainstream rock guitarists? Jimi managed to take a very free form, almost jazzy style and apply it to blues-rock. And got noticed. Guys like Jeff beck are still doing that today, but don't get much coverage, and no air play, so noone knows that they are capable of all that too. But they don't have Jimi's charisma or presence. And that is how he tied it all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Wait for it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Wait for it.... Nah. Jimi is the best. Even if others were at his talent level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm thinking maybe you are limiting yourself to the more mainstream rock guitarists? Jimi managed to take a very free form, almost jazzy style and apply it to blues-rock. And got noticed. Guys like Jeff beck are still doing that today, but don't get much coverage, and no air play, so noone knows that they are capable of all that too. But they don't have Jimi's charisma or presence. And that is how he tied it all together. I know Beck, I don't think he's as skilled. But in general my experience is indeed limited to blues-based guitarists. And metal ones, though those are all blues-based if you go far back enough :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I know Beck, I don't think he's as skilled. But in general my experience is indeed limited to blues-based guitarists. And metal ones, though those are all blues-based if you go far back enough :P Not Loser Beck, you ninny. JEFF Beck. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Not Loser Beck, you ninny. JEFF Beck. :D :lol: I think Boston's self titled album is the first album I ever heard from my dad's record player, but I think the Yardbirds were the first one I picked out and put on myself, just to hear what they were like. Heavy nostalgia. I also wrote a research paper on Clapton and Beck in 10th grade Just rambling about Hendrix some more, but the tone he got from a strat, a Marshall stack, and a wah pedal (and maybe 1 or 2 others) is not of this world. And I think he is the best ever at phrasing, yeah, even better than Gilmour. That might be a bad opinion but I stand by it :P And actually d4rk, my roommate at school hates Hendrix, but he also thinks that "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is the best guitar work he's ever heard. And yeah, he only knows it from Guitar Hero III. Edited May 11, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 :lol: I think Boston's self titled album is the first album I ever heard from my dad's record player, but I think the Yardbirds were the first one I picked out and put on myself, just to hear what they were like. Heavy nostalgia. I also wrote a research paper on Clapton and Beck in 10th grade My son did a paper in grade school on Stevie Ray Vaughn. He was scolded by the teacher for choosing a person with such a drugged up past. Damned devil music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 My son did a paper in grade school on Stevie Ray Vaughn. He was scolded by the teacher for choosing a person with such a drugged up past. Damned devil music! I would have given that paper an A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) My son did a paper in grade school on Stevie Ray Vaughn. He was scolded by the teacher for choosing a person with such a drugged up past. Damned devil music! That teacher sure sounds like a tw@t. Just let the needle drop on Texas flood and tell the teacher to #edited for decency # Edited May 12, 2017 by ubkev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I am not going to argue for or against. I think when musicians get to a certain level their choice of style ordains their art. I like Garcia, Page Dave Davies and Knopfler as much for their style as their pure skill. I also think Noel Gallagher and Jack White keep a lot of the spirit of those guys alive. Am cranking the Winwood Clapton Madison Square Garden cd as we speak. What a show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Is Jimi Hendrix the consensus guy we were looking for? Who doesn't like Hendrix? Two words ... Duane Allman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Two words ... Duane Allman :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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