woods-racer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I promised myself I'd only support a tank one time. Obviously pleased with the results. But I'll never pull for Buffalo to lose again. I want them to win now, things are just too different from a few seasons ago. There is nothing to gain by losing the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I want them to win now, things are just too different from a few seasons ago. There is nothing to gain by losing the rest of the way. Except a better draft pick and (most importantly) increasing the chances that DB gets fired. You can't possibly believe that if we lost our last 12 games it wouldn't increase the chances of Pegula giving Murray the green light to fire DB. I'd call that a tremendous gain for the team long term. I understand not wanting the team to lose, but to say there's no upside to it is just wrong. Unless you prefer DB to remain coach and you really feel there's absolutely no difference long term between drafting 5th or 14th this June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I hope 8-4 versus 4-8 is not the difference in Dan staying or going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Except a better draft pick and (most importantly) increasing the chances that DB gets fired. You can't possibly believe that if we lost our last 12 games it wouldn't increase the chances of Pegula giving Murray the green light to fire DB. I'd call that a tremendous gain for the team long term. I understand not wanting the team to lose, but to say there's no upside to it is just wrong. Unless you prefer DB to remain coach and you really feel there's absolutely no difference long term between drafting 5th or 14th this June. There are two games on the remaining schedule that I absolutely want the Sabres to win. Other than that I agree with this. I don't see the Sabres current position in the standings changing much (maybe drop down 2 spots if we keep our losing pace) but the closer we get to the bottom, the better chance we have hitting the lottery for a top-3 pick, which I can see Murray trading to get real help on the blue-line. I'm not rooting for the Sabres to lose, but I am rooting for them to lose Bylsma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I just want to see Eichel (and Reinhart) get points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Except a better draft pick and (most importantly) increasing the chances that DB gets fired. You can't possibly believe that if we lost our last 12 games it wouldn't increase the chances of Pegula giving Murray the green light to fire DB. I'd call that a tremendous gain for the team long term. I understand not wanting the team to lose, but to say there's no upside to it is just wrong. Unless you prefer DB to remain coach and you really feel there's absolutely no difference long term between drafting 5th or 14th this June. I don't disagree necessarily, but... If we don't lose out, we won't lose out on a chance to a generational player. Picking 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 is meh, it's not a great draft and it's just splitting hairs. No way we go on a 10-2 run, so I see no chance in drafting 14th. I'm basically saying, unlike the past few years I will not be openly rooting for a loss, I will openly be rooting for a win. There is just so little to gain from a losing streak. I hope 8-4 versus 4-8 is not the difference in Dan staying or going. In GMTM I trust. The drums of this being his last season as the Sabres head coach appear to get louder across the interwebs daily. Edited March 15, 2017 by Woods-Racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Besides if we go on a losing streak now, no one will see us coming when we go on 15 game winning streak to start next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm still rooting for the wins but there's not much of a chance that'll happen now. Roster is flawed. Coach is stuck in some kind of timewarp. It is what it is. Lets just let it all play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) This is actually a big game in the Carrion league. https://www.talk.hockey/tank-tracker/ With a "win" BUF has a chance to tie for 3rd place in points. Edited March 16, 2017 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) This is actually a big game in the Carrion league. https://www.talk.hockey/tank-tracker/ With a "win" BUF has a chance to tie for 3rd place in points. For heck of it I ran a simulator 50 times. Buffalo didn't land the 1st pick, but did grab the 2nd pick 5 times. Edited March 16, 2017 by GoPre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, the count is now -3 pts. 90 is the best they could do if they ran the table and went 11 for 11 (a drug induced dream, frankly) If they lose 2 of their next 3 or 4 games in reg, I'd say the team is playing to get a new coach, as much as playing for draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Sabres are now in 24th place and sinking. About to lock up another top 10 draft picks. Way to go guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Sabres are now in 24th place and sinking. About to lock up another top 10 draft picks. Way to go guys! Yep. We got leapfrogged by Carolina sometime in the past week and we got passed by Winnipeg last night. Dallas could pass us tonight if they can beat Calgary and we lose to Anaheim. It's possible for us to finish as low as 29th although not likely. We'd need another back to back against Jersey, plus Arizona would have to continue gaining ground on us. Edited March 17, 2017 by Drunkard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Yep. We got leapfrogged by Carolina sometime in the past week and we got passed by Winnipeg last night. Dallas could pass us tonight if they can beat Calgary and we lose to Anaheim. It's possible for us to finish as low as 29th although not likely. We'd need another back to back against Jersey, plus Arizona would have to continue gaining ground on us. Can't wait to see the forward he drafts with that top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I predict the Sabres finish 26th and don't place in the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Can't wait to see the forward he drafts with that top 5 pick. I hope not, but I could definitely see it happening. I don't really have time to follow and analyze the draft but just googling NHL mock draft it seems like players are all over the place. Lilgegren is slated to go anywhere from 2nd to 24th and Valimaki is slated to go anywhere from 5th to 18th. Give me either of these guys (assuming we don't win the lottery) and I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 If I were more motivated, I'd make charts with the Carious (TM MattPie) teams and they ranges they could finish, but frankly I'm not going to waste any more time on this team until they start playing more interesting hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Yeah, if I were motivated, I'd look at the remaining schedule of 11 games and guesstimate which games are likely wins, which are likely losses, etc. Hard to even care with such a dysfunctional organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I think we're going 4-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I think we're going 4-7 Yeah, I can't believe they'd go 2-9. Probably 4-7 or 5-6. That would be a 76-78 pt season. Hard to believe if that happens no one gets fired, 3 years into Murray's so-called 'rebuild' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yeah, I can't believe they'd go 2-9. Probably 4-7 or 5-6. That would be a 76-78 pt season. Hard to believe if that happens no one gets fired, 3 years into Murray's so-called 'rebuild' From this point, what do the Sabres need to go 6-10 for the last 16? That's a Buffalo record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 After this collecting dust, it moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 After this collecting dust, it moves. I thought you would kill off this thread once the countdown reached 0, but the negative countdown does add a sort of elegance to the futility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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