darksabre Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I think that is just a heat of the moment retaliation for that cross check across the wrists. I still don't like it. If you want to hurt a guy then just hurt him. Hack his knees or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I think that is just a heat of the moment retaliation for that cross check across the wrists. WHAAAAAAAAA???????????????? I love how DeLuca has instantly been proven correct. I lost a lot of respect for Lucic for his handshake antics.....but the 1 guy on the team that many have said is an untouchable, just went full Lucic...has pretty much the same body and skillset.....and wears female prostitute clothing on multiple occasions...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Yea that was pretty dirty on Girgs' end. But it's still less egregious than Lucic's. His was calculated and not in the "heat of the moment" whatsoever. Same with the handshake ######. I'm disappointed that Girgs would go there, but it's still a notch below Lucic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Folks....Girgensons IS Lucic.....that's why you love him. Kaleta is a no talent hack who slew foots, hits guys from behind, turtles....etc....that's why he was run out of the league. Lucic is a lunkhead who can be a hothead DB. If you gave Girgensons a skill test, an IQ test, and a Psych test.....it is probably bang on to Lucic in all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 WHAAAAAAAAA???????????????? I love how DeLuca has instantly been proven correct. I lost a lot of respect for Lucic for his handshake antics.....but the 1 guy on the team that many have said is an untouchable, just went full Lucic...has pretty much the same body and skillset.....and wears female prostitute clothing on multiple occasions...... female prostitute clothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) WHAAAAAAAAA???????????????? I love how DeLuca has instantly been proven correct. I lost a lot of respect for Lucic for his handshake antics.....but the 1 guy on the team that many have said is an untouchable, just went full Lucic...has pretty much the same body and skillset.....and wears female prostitute clothing on multiple occasions...... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Not saying it was clean, but it wasn't premeditated. He just got it over the hands on the same draw. Very different from chopping hacking the vas deferense from behind the play on a different shift. Disagree? (remember, I'm not the one saying Lucic isn't valuable. I just don't think he's the second coming.) Edited May 17, 2014 by X. Benedict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Not saying it was clean, but it wasn't premeditated. He just got it over the hands on the same draw. Very different from chopping hacking the vas deferense from behind the play on a different shift. Disagree? (remember, I'm not the one saying Lucic isn't valuable. I just don't think he's the second coming.) It was a regular faceoff.... I can't even see what you said happened..... Oh well. I am not defending Lucic. I am saying it's suddenly not so egregious behavior when it is one of your favorites.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 It was a regular faceoff.... I can't even see what you said happened..... Oh well. I am not defending Lucic. I am saying it's suddenly not so egregious behavior when it is one of your favorites.... If you can't see the difference between taking five strides and placing your stick between somebody's legs and then sterilizing them vs raising your stick that incidentally ended up between the opposing player's legs immediately after a face off/back-and-forth jabbing then seek help immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 If you can't see the difference between taking five strides and placing your stick between somebody's legs and then sterilizing them vs raising your stick that incidentally ended up between the opposing player's legs immediately after a face off/back-and-forth jabbing then seek help immediately. Maybe the fact Gus's country is a few weeks from getting invaded by Russia had something to do with it? Anyway....they are pretty close to one in the same as players....there will be more...you'll see. Girgensons hasn't even come close to dropping the gloves in the NHL yet either....which is why there is no way he gets a letter yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Looks like he got him right underneath his front pads in the belly... I don't think he was TRYING to severely hurt him... he went right back to the bench, if it was THAT bad he would've ended up in the locker room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Lucic is a great player, he's a rare commodity that few teams have, and I'd love him to be a Sabre...and there is zero chance I'd give up this year's or next year's 1st for him, let alone both. Insanity, especially given where the Sabres are at in the rebuilding process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Are you listening to yourself? You think Jonathan Toews has less of an impact than Lucic? Because that is the level of player you draft this year and most assuredly next year. Oh and BTW Sam Reinhart and Sam Bennett will both have more of an impact than Lucic. If you draft Eichel next year he will have more of an impact. Nikita Zadorov and Rasmus Ristolainen will have more of an impact. Milan Lucic is good. He's 6'4" 230lbs. You know how you neutralize that size? You tell 6'5" 235lb Zadorov to run him over. Outside of his size he is an average 2nd liner. There are a ton of other players in the league better at LW than Milan Lucic. Are you listening to yourself? Not every player drafted at the top of the draft becomes Jonathan Toews. Folks....Girgensons IS Lucic.....that's why you love him. Kaleta is a no talent hack who slew foots, hits guys from behind, turtles....etc....that's why he was run out of the league. Lucic is a lunkhead who can be a hothead DB. If you gave Girgensons a skill test, an IQ test, and a Psych test.....it is probably bang on to Lucic in all 3. If Girgensons can become a Lucic type player that would be fantastic. I would love to see Girgensons pull a few more stunts like that. It's a great example of the John Scott argument. I have no problem with any Sabre potential top 6 forward showing a dark side. I wish Marcus Foligno would show it and the two monster blueliners the Sabres just drafted as well. There's no point in drafting size if the player isn't going to use it to it's max potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 It was a regular faceoff.... I can't even see what you said happened..... Oh well. I am not defending Lucic. I am saying it's suddenly not so egregious behavior when it is one of your favorites.... On the dot, the Russian gave a cross-check downward chuck over the back of Zemgus's wrists. At least that's what I saw. FWIW - Briere was much dirtier with his stick in Sabres uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) Big difference between what gus did and what lucic has done repeatedly. Gus got penalized and seemingly ejected. Lucic got no in game punishment. Any bets on what happens if gus does this in a NHL game? Edited May 17, 2014 by drnkirishone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrix31 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I'll take Girgensons being as good as Lucic without being as much of a detestable piece of ###### as Lucic, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Big difference between what gus did and what lucic has done repeatedly. Gus got penalized and seemingly ejected. Lucic got no in game punishment. Any bets on what happens if gus does this in a NHL game? Keep telling yourself that. :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Girgenson's play to date has been physical yet clean. 14 penalty minutes for this entire year. That's less than one night when Lucic loses his cool. Both guys are eager to play the body, but that's where the similarities disappear. Zemgus plays hard between the whistles and I have seen zero nonsense after them. Lucic's intimidation is probably due in a large part to the carrying on he does during stoppages in play. (Usually against physical mismatches that he selects). There is a reason why people see Zemgus as a future captain and Lucic will never fill that role. As for the recent spearing epidemic, the Lucic ones drive home the point I'm making. An undisciplined hothead is the only one who will skate multiple strides from behind to do the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 On the dot, the Russian gave a cross-check downward chuck over the back of Zemgus's wrists. At least that's what I saw. I initially noticed the headbutt to his face, but the more I see it, that probably just caught visor. So you're probably right on the crosscheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Are you listening to yourself? Not every player drafted at the top of the draft becomes Jonathan Toews. Are you listening to yourself? You want to trade away not one but 2 top line centers. MIlan Lucic, good player but he works in Boston because of Bergeron and Krecji. 2 top five picks for a 2nd line winger is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Are you listening to yourself? You want to trade away not one but 2 top line centers. MIlan Lucic, good player but he works in Boston because of Bergeron and Krecji. 2 top five picks for a 2nd line winger is stupid. There's no guarantee the Sabres are going to get "2 top line centers" with those picks. There is nothing "stupid" about trading for a known commodity, especially when that player is a dominant and young as Lucic is. This is a franchise changing move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 There's no guarantee the Sabres are going to get "2 top line centers" with those picks. There is nothing "stupid" about trading for a known commodity, especially when that player is a dominant and young as Lucic is. This is a franchise changing move. I disagree. A franchise changing move is drafting 2nd overall. I understand Lucic is a known commodity but Sam Reinhart and Sam Bennett have much more upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 There's no guarantee the Sabres are going to get "2 top line centers" with those picks. There is nothing "stupid" about trading for a known commodity, especially when that player is a dominant and young as Lucic is. This is a franchise changing move. It is stupid when you're highly overpaying for that known commodity... It would be a franchise-changing move in the sense that it would eliminate hope for a lot of people. This franchise has plenty of players who will play supporting roles similar to Lucic in a few years. It needs that elite talent that Lucic won't provide but these next two picks have a good chance of providing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 There's no guarantee the Sabres are going to get "2 top line centers" with those picks. There is nothing "stupid" about trading for a known commodity, especially when that player is a dominant and young as Lucic is. This is a franchise changing move. It would be the worst move in franchise history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPWoGIGEiqk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I would trade any combination of roster player(s), prospect(s) and / or draft choice(s) that it would take to put Lucic in a Sabre jersey. IMO, he is exactly what the Sabres need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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