Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I guess he didn't get the memo from the marketing team pimping how valuable all those 2nd round picks were....yikes! For as much as a weasel Darcy was, Murray is TOO honest! If he was dangling 3 2nds for a late first in this years draft, he should be taken to task. And I personally don't need to know what he's offering. Part of me is concerned that too much transparency is a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Two seconds should have beat the offer the Sharks took from the Hawks for pick 20, so the three seconds must have been to teams a lot higher up the ladder. I wonder who he was targeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 If he was dangling 3 2nds for a late first in this years draft, he should be taken to task. And I personally don't need to know what he's offering. Part of me is concerned that too much transparency is a bad thing. I like Murray a lot, but yeah....look at the Myers thing, he comes out a few weeks ago saying he's not the guy. Now we have him as one of the hot trade rumors. It's OK if he actually does get moved soon....but when you pretty much admit he is fragile to the public, then give him reason to question his standing...he's gotta go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 If he was dangling 3 2nds for a late first in this years draft, he should be taken to task. And I personally don't need to know what he's offering. Part of me is concerned that too much transparency is a bad thing. I dunno, but I think there's a certain level of craftiness at work here. Perhaps I'm idealizing what I see from Murray; but the persona he projects isn't for us, it's for the other GMs. He creates this perception of being shockingly direct and upfront, and uses that as a way to manipulate his transactions. I make no judgment, now, as to whether its a successful approach in hockey, but it can be effective in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I dunno, but I think there's a certain level of craftiness at work here. Perhaps I'm idealizing what I see from Murray; but the persona he projects isn't for us, it's for the other GMs. He creates this perception of being shockingly direct and upfront, and uses that as a way to manipulate his transactions. I make no judgment, now, as to whether its a successful approach in hockey, but it can be effective in business. The problem I have with it is, what good comes from publicly devaluing your own assets? Not only from a trade value point of view, but more so from the angle that you aren't able to move that player. People don't like working in environments where they are publicly shamed. We saw this earlier when he was dismissive of our UFA's this year. Are those players trash? Absolutely. But a little bit of finesse is a good thing if you are a boss, at least in my opiniion. I think all this does is give Murray very little leash if things start to go poorly. This act only works if you get results. Otherwise, it gets stale quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I agree with the poster who pointed out he could have moved up into the late 1st with 2 of the 2nd rounders, then, packaged that 1st and the other 2nd rounder, if he had to he could have included the 61st over all as well. But what is striking is the deal for the 20th overall, The 27th and the 67th picks? Really? I think Murray could have packaged the 31st, 49th and 61st to get up to 20 then used the 20th and 39th to move up to the mid teens, no? Also, I believe Murray is going for Quality for sure, especially since he was willing to offer all three 2nd rounders. Edited June 28, 2014 by HopefulFuture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 He's Russian Maybe drafting him lights a fire under Grigs Where's that other Latvian supposed to go? Kulda? Hes supposed to go in the 50's to 60's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Thank Jesus, Mary and Tom Hanks. FUN Funny you say that. Tom Hanks is the most underrated actor of our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Can't believe nobody picked Ivan Barbashev. Already got perfect nickname for him, "Crazy Ivan" . Signature move, doubles back into his own zone :w00t: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/?id=626612 warm welcom for bettman in philly :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Can't believe nobody picked Ivan Barbashev. Already got perfect nickname for him, "Crazy Ivan" . Signature move, doubles back into his own zone :w00t: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/?id=626612 warm welcom for bettman in philly :blink: With Barbashev, Lemieux, Karlsson, Mckoeown, Macinnis, Demko still on the board,I couldn't sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Same i kept checking for trades or something on my phone :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Sean Monahan and now Sam Bennett. keep an eye on the Calgary Flames going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Sean Monahan and now Sam Bennett. keep an eye on the Calgary Flames going forward. They are already deep with forward prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 With Barbashev, Lemieux, Karlsson, Mckoeown, Macinnis, Demko still on the board,I couldn't sleep. Those are all good names. Barbashev and one of Lemieux, Karlsson or MacInnis would be nice. I like Doughtery a bit too. I think waiting until round three or four (depending on the drop off) it would be fine to wait on Ville Husso. He's my favorite goalie in the draft, though there are other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Does anyone know if they're streaming Day 2 online and where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know if they're streaming Day 2 online and where? You inspired me to look and this is what I found: "American viewers can stream the NHL Draft live for free through the NBC Sports Live Extra app for iPhone and iPad, which provides a live feed of the NBC Sports Network. The app also features on-demand video and highlights, full replays and more to keep you in the loop with the latest news throughout the draft. NBC Sports Live Extra is free on the App Store" Edited June 28, 2014 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 You inspired me to look and this is what I found: "American viewers can stream the NHL Draft live for free through the NBC Sports Live Extra app for iPhone and iPad, which provides a live feed of the NBC Sports Network. The app also features on-demand video and highlights, full replays and more to keep you in the loop with the latest news throughout the draft. NBC Sports Live Extra is free on the App Store" I bet that was only for last night though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabres1970 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 If this Barbashev is so good why'd he fall so far? Any of you "X's and O's" kind of hockey people who could explain, it'd be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 http://youtu.be/jGQxsRP-iBk Come on TM....This is the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 If this Barbashev is so good why'd he fall so far? Any of you "X's and O's" kind of hockey people who could explain, it'd be much appreciated. It's just the nature of the draft at this stage. I don't think he was ever going to go in the first but we weren't sure how other teams would value him. I think he's a solid pick at #31. He's a big two-way forward centerman and we can't have enough players who fit that description. He really looked good at the World Juniors. Wherever the puck was so was Barbashev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) If this Barbashev is so good why'd he fall so far? Any of you "X's and O's" kind of hockey people who could explain, it'd be much appreciated. The forward group from 11-60 have similarities and vast differences. Kempe who is a very good talent slid to 29, when he was shown in mocks to go between 10-20. Vrana who went to Washington at 13, was rumored to be in the back end of the first round. It's all based on how your board lines up. I hope Barbashev is a target. He skates very well, and confidently. I love the upside. Edited June 28, 2014 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Plus who doesn't want a guy named Barbashev on their team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Plus who doesn't want a guy named Barbashev on their team? Exactly! TEAM USSR ######! Just kidding. At this point it is all about upside, and picking. The guy that everyone wanted at #2 for the most part (Sam Bennett, Really?!?) was selected. So now its about the Lemieux vs Barbashev vs MacInnis vs McKeown types. Edited June 28, 2014 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I bet that was only for last night though. Then there is this one: "Canadian viewers can stream the NHL Draft live through the TSN GO and iPad, which provides a live feed of both the TSN and TSN2 channels. The app also has the latest news headlines, videos and expert analysis leading up, during and following the draft. You can also visit TSN.ca through Safari for a live blog and pick tracker. TSN GO is free on the App Store" Edited June 28, 2014 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) You inspired me to look and this is what I found: "American viewers can stream the NHL Draft live for free through the NBC Sports Live Extra app for iPhone and iPad, which provides a live feed of the NBC Sports Network. The app also features on-demand video and highlights, full replays and more to keep you in the loop with the latest news throughout the draft. NBC Sports Live Extra is free on the App Store" Looking at that app I think that was only for last nights coverage, and the TSN piece you'll likely need a password from a Canadian cable provider. Edited June 28, 2014 by Lanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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