beerme1 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The more I look at it, the more I think there wasn't much of a hit. Still ten games. Just because! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Thanks for posting those. I tried to analyze the hit on youtube; sucked. The hit's not late, he doesn't leave his feet, and he keeps his elbow down. The head is the first point of contact, really because the opponent's momentum changes as he shoots. Kaleta's prevented from taking a more parallel angle by the other opponent (not that I think he would've tried to take that lesser angle). Just looks like Kaleta tried to run him, didn't have a good angle, missed his check, and happened to catch his head, mostly because he missed. No elbow, no leaving feet. edit: Despite his fast approach, Kaleta's also not charging, because he coasts into it. But it's Kaleta, so 75 games. Edited October 12, 2013 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 So what happens if they don't suspend him for any games? Do they back pay him for the time he misses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 So what happens if they don't suspend him for any games? Do they back pay him for the time he misses? That and why the delay ? I think they're really searchin on this one. No doubt he gets suspended because of past stupidity but is it deserved for this play ? Kaleta is his own worst enemy. He's essentially rendered himself useless at the N.H.L. level because he's a liability to his team and the league is out to get him. I'm not making excuses for him but he's obviously a marked man if this hit is suspendible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The wait is cuz it's thanksgiving weekend bun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The coaching staff should let everyone know what THEY think about this, unfiltered.Pegula should also protest this with Gary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The wait is cuz it's thanksgiving weekend bun. Aw what a load o turkey. :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 @DarrenDreger Reminder: Patrick Kaleta in-person hearing today at 2pm in NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 @DarrenDreger Reminder: Patrick Kaleta in-person hearing today at 2pm in NYC. I am calling it, 15 games. Shanahan is a liar and biased asshat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I don't recall another player having to wait for a hearing. Has this happened before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I don't recall another player having to wait for a hearing. Has this happened before? If memory serves, Raffi Torres had to wait prior to his last one. The games he waited were included in his penalty if I am remembering correctly. So you can assume a minimum of 2 games for Kaleta anyway. Given the schedule 3 in reality is likely minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) I've been off the grid (gloriously so) and hadn't heard of/seen this. I agree with Eleven's call - this will get 10+ games. I also mostly disagree with the defenses being raised here. That hit looks an awful lot like the sort of garbage that Matt Cooke used to throw around -- even a bit like the Neil hit on Drury. It's a charge for starters [edit, the coast notwithstanding], the principal point of contact is the head, he's approaching from a blind side, there's an opportunity but no effort to avoid the head, the player being hit doesn't change his position so as to create the head-hit, the guy delivering the hit is a repeat offender ... they will stop just short of throwing the book at him. And rightly so. Edited October 15, 2013 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 What's the deal with the roster spot for Kaleta while he's suspended? Does he still count or can the Sabres add someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm saying 25 excluding games already missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo Von Matterhorn Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 What's the deal with the roster spot for Kaleta while he's suspended? Does he still count or can the Sabres add someone? Still counts against the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Still counts against the roster That really sucks for the team. :thumbdown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I've been off the grid (gloriously so) and hadn't heard of/seen this. I agree with Eleven's call - this will get 10+ games. I also mostly disagree with the defenses being raised here. That hit looks an awful lot like the sort of garbage that Matt Cooke used to throw around -- even a bit like the Neil hit on Drury. It's a charge for starters, the principal point of contact is the head, he's approaching from a blond side, there's an opportunity but no effort to avoid the head, the player being hit doesn't change his position so as to create the head-hit, the guy delivering the hit is a repeat offender ... they will stop just short of throwing the book at him. And rightly so. How does one do that? Does that only happen to folks with Nordic roots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 How does one do that? Does that only happen to folks with Nordic roots? Ha. I did just notice (and fix) that. Risto would be a huge risk to take a hit from the blond side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo Von Matterhorn Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah I got 10 after seeing 5 gamer last year bet Shanny doubles it up to "teach him a lesson" Nailed this one! Here's that Shanaban video if you feel like torturing yourself http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Nailed this one! Here's that Shanaban video if you feel like torturing yourself http://video.nhl.com...onsole?catid=60 Yea I stopped watching at "no matter who had made this hit there would have been supplemental discipline" I don't have a problem with them doing this. I have a problem with the inconsistency with which they had ###### out. If this play had been reversed and Kaleta had been hit like that, I bet money there would have been 0 discipline handed out. Shanahan is biased and a liar. I have no respect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm completely agnostic. If I woke up tomorrow and he was gone I would not miss him. If he stays, so be it. If he had any offense at all, I would feel differently. Yeap. 10 games is appropriate. He deserves a relatively lengthy suspension, no denying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo Von Matterhorn Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yea I stopped watching at "no matter who had made this hit there would have been supplemental discipline" I don't have a problem with them doing this. I have a problem with the inconsistency with which they had ###### out. If this play had been reversed and Kaleta had been hit like that, I bet money there would have been 0 discipline handed out. Shanahan is biased and a liar. I have no respect for him. I also don't have a problem with the length, but that is the absolute truth and that's what pisses me off, because I feel like we always get the short end with him anything questionable that we do is gonna be a suspension, but anything done against us doesn't get looked at or even explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I think it's a travesty that every player who makes that hit doesn't get suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 What hit ? Honestly I'm still having trouble seeing where the crime happened and apparently the ref had trouble seeing it too. I'm no Kaleta apologist and I think he deserves what he gets based on his past history yada yada yada but this one is just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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