BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 idc what anyone says about leino, we all watched him in last years series loss. we all know he can make plays. everybody gets overpaid in FA, thats part of it, thats why WE as sAAbres fans have never been a part of it. now we are for years to come. stop over analyzing everything. you must take chances on guys with talent and upside(briere?), and the money is not coming out of our pockets. if some signings flop, like they do all over the league, it doesnt matter. this man has so much money and wants to be a winner so bad(god bless us finally)he can bury bad contracts and money like throwing away skittles. HE DONT CARE. HE WANT CUP. you clearly don't understand what we do here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Well, there was until some inconsiderate poster decided to make it all about himself. :D Consider the source <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apushms Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Terrific post ... All this movement and improvement and the youth in the organization remains. Nice job by the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now for the important question: What number will he wear? It got lost in the old Leino thread, but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedon Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now for the important question: What number will he wear? #20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now we just need that line-mate of his.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 I want to see how Leino is with Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Ville Lieno is a really interesting signing. Although I don't expect him to score much more that 20 goals, he really has great vision near the net and in tight spaces, which will be great for the Sabres wings and PP. The price tag is high, but all UFA's get overpaid. Lieno can play any forward position. 1-4 line LW-C-RW, PP or PK, shootouts...he's like having a Swiss Army Knife. I never really thought of Lieno as first line center, but he's never really needed to play there in the NHL, I thought of him as more of an Ales Hemsky (someone that has the vision to play center but doesn't, and like Hemsky...he has a great shot but doesn't shoot much). I think this deal might look very good in a couple years - especially with Joel Armia - you have an older Finn to look after the new one. I think he's a player a coach on any team loves to have. He's a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetcarp77 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Ville Lieno is a really interesting signing. Although I don't expect him to score much more that 20 goals, he really has great vision near the net and in tight spaces, which will be great for the Sabres wings and PP. The price tag is high, but all UFA's get overpaid. Lieno can play any forward position. 1-4 line LW-C-RW, PP or PK, shootouts...he's like having a Swiss Army Knife. I never really thought of Lieno as first line center, but he's never really needed to play there in the NHL, I thought of him as more of an Ales Hemsky (someone that has the vision to play center but doesn't, and like Hemsky...he has a great shot but doesn't shoot much). I think this deal might look very good in a couple years - especially with Joel Armia - you have an older Finn to look after the new one. I think he's a player a coach on any team loves to have. He's a player. thats more like it. versatile player with huge upside given more of a chance to be involved. its hard to crack that phiily scoring machine, but he did well, and damn well in the playoffs. welcome ville. one less goal against us, and most likely one clutch goal for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 They are also the same group that think Hecht is a capable center, so you need to take that with a huge grain of salt. Maybe capable as an emergency fill-in, but Hecht has never been listed on an opening-day roster as a center. There's no doubt that Ruff would rather keep Hecht at wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Consider the source <_< You realize I was making a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Maybe capable as an emergency fill-in, but Hecht has never been listed on an opening-day roster as a center. There's no doubt that Ruff would rather keep Hecht at wing. Wasn't Hecht listed as center on the opening day roster the season after Drury and Briere left? I believe our centers were Roy, Connolly, Hecht, and Gaustad at 1st puck drop. But I certainly could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Wasn't Hecht listed as center on the opening day roster the season after Drury and Briere left? I believe our centers were Roy, Connolly, Hecht, and Gaustad at 1st puck drop. But I certainly could be wrong. Connolly-Roy-Gaustad-Mair IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Wasn't Hecht listed as center on the opening day roster the season after Drury and Briere left? I believe our centers were Roy, Connolly, Hecht, and Gaustad at 1st puck drop. But I certainly could be wrong. I don't believe that is accurate. During the 2007-2008 season, the plan was to go into the season with Roy, Connolly, Gaustad, and Adam Mair as the 4 centers. However, Connolly got injured pretty early and Hecht was forced into playing center for much of the year as Connolly missed a ton of games that year. I believe it was during that season we saw what later became a somewhat regular line over the next three seasons with MacArthur, Hecht, and Pominville. The Sabres were forced into a bunch of makeshift centers during the course of that year due to injuries including putting Kotalik at center, which was a disaster. Michael Ryan also saw quite a bit of ice time that year as well (what a terrible return in the Stu Barnes trade). Ultimately, I don't believe the plan was to use Hecht at center, but he did play quite a bit at center that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Wasn't Hecht listed as center on the opening day roster the season after Drury and Briere left? I believe our centers were Roy, Connolly, Hecht, and Gaustad at 1st puck drop. But I certainly could be wrong. I can't find the opening lineup for 2007 where they list the positions other than F, but Mair might have been the 4th center. I think the top line was Roy, Afinogenov, Vanek; and the second line was Connolly, Hecht, and Pominville. The remaining forwards on the roster, besides Gaustad and Mair, were Stafford, Paille, Kotalik, and Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Ville Lieno is a really interesting signing. Although I don't expect him to score much more that 20 goals, he really has great vision near the net and in tight spaces, which will be great for the Sabres wings and PP. The price tag is high, but all UFA's get overpaid. Lieno can play any forward position. 1-4 line LW-C-RW, PP or PK, shootouts...he's like having a Swiss Army Knife. I never really thought of Lieno as first line center, but he's never really needed to play there in the NHL, I thought of him as more of an Ales Hemsky (someone that has the vision to play center but doesn't, and like Hemsky...he has a great shot but doesn't shoot much). I think this deal might look very good in a couple years - especially with Joel Armia - you have an older Finn to look after the new one. I think he's a player a coach on any team loves to have. He's a player. Now that post got me fired up. Thank you sir. Maybe capable as an emergency fill-in, but Hecht has never been listed on an opening-day roster as a center. There's no doubt that Ruff would rather keep Hecht at wing. I think he's going to be the #3 center on opening day this year, innit? Vanek-Leino-Stafford -- I am very psyched to see this line Ennis-Roy-Boyes -- this line will be feast-or-famine most nights Gerbe-Hecht-Pommer -- this line will be pretty good albeit well overpaid Kaleta-Gaustad-McCormick -- this line will be entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 It took me a while to remember his name, but am I the only one who thinks that Ville Leino looks like Nick Stahl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now that post got me fired up. Thank you sir. I think he's going to be the #3 center on opening day this year, innit? Vanek-Leino-Stafford -- I am very psyched to see this line Ennis-Roy-Boyes -- this line will be feast-or-famine most nights Gerbe-Hecht-Pommer -- this line will be pretty good albeit well overpaid Kaleta-Gaustad-McCormick -- this line will be entertaining For balance, I'm pretty sure I'm going to love Leino (my expectation is many here might be underwhelmed by 2-way players I like)...but at the same time, it is a bit optimistic to think of him as a first line center....I think a trade is still coming.....if not..I think Luke Adam makes the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now that post got me fired up. Thank you sir. I think he's going to be the #3 center on opening day this year, innit? Vanek-Leino-Stafford -- I am very psyched to see this line Ennis-Roy-Boyes -- this line will be feast-or-famine most nights Gerbe-Hecht-Pommer -- this line will be pretty good albeit well overpaid Kaleta-Gaustad-McCormick -- this line will be entertaining I don't think the roster is set yet. I have a feeling that Hecht won't be on the roster opening night, but we'll see. And I think that Roy is going to be the #1 center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 For balance, I'm pretty sure I'm going to love Leino (my expectation is many here might be underwhelmed by 2-way players I like)...but at the same time, it is a bit optimistic to think of him as a first line center....I think a trade is still coming. I hope you're right about this. I would love to see a trade for a center who's in the mix for #1, but Darcy's demeanor and words indicated that this isn't likely. I think he even said something to the effect that this is the team they expect to bring into training camp. Still, if Stastny or Spezza comes on the market, I think the Sabres will attempt to land him. But if there's no trade, he's my #1 center right now -- although I think this is a bit of a misnomer because I think there won't be much difference in 5-on-5 ice time among those 3 lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 I don't think the roster is set yet. I have a feeling that Hecht won't be on the roster opening night, but we'll see. And I think that Roy is going to be the #1 center. It does seem like Hecht and Kotalik are the forwards most likely to be dealt in a salary dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Vanek-Leino-Stafford -- I am very psyched to see this line Ennis-Roy-Boyes -- this line will be feast-or-famine most nights Gerbe-Hecht-Pommer -- this line will be pretty good albeit well overpaid Kaleta-Gaustad-McCormick -- this line will be entertaining I am not at all thrilled with the idea of a SRV line return but I think that is the most likely #1 line to start the season. And I think Leino would be a great fit with Ennis and Boyes. Leino is really good at possession down low and that isn't Ennis or Boyes' strong suit so I think Putting Leino with those two creates the best matchup of skill sets. It'll be interesting to see how the chemistry works among the various combinations of Vanek/Ennis/Roy/Leino/Stafford/Boyes. I think the Gerbe Hecht Pommer line is interesting. And it is one I expect to see on opening day as well. Gerbe should bring an element to Hecht and Pommers' game that they really haven't seen when they've been linemates in the past. IMO Gerbe is going to be the down low guy and Pommer will be free to work the high slot and get off that terrific shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 It does seem like Hecht and Kotalik are the forwards most likely to be dealt in a salary dump. No doubt with Kotalik, but looking at the lineup you posted above, it's hard to make the case for Hecht still being a top 6 winger (unless Boyes has really lost his game). And it seems a waste not to put a better center between Gerbe and Pominville. Whether they upgrade that spot by binging in a top center that bumps Roy and Leino down, or they just bring in a guy who's better than Hecht at center, they need a better 3rd center; and I agree that Gaustad is probably not that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 I hope you're right about this. I would love to see a trade for a center who's in the mix for #1, but Darcy's demeanor and words indicated that this isn't likely. I think he even said something to the effect that this is the team they expect to bring into training camp. Still, if Stastny or Spezza comes on the market, I think the Sabres will attempt to land him. But if there's no trade, he's my #1 center right now -- although I think this is a bit of a misnomer because I think there won't be much difference in 5-on-5 ice time among those 3 lines. Things can change quickly. A lot of teams didn't get what they needed this week. Buffalo IMO got three of top 10 players availble out there. It was a hell of a week for the club. The tricky thing here out is for teams have to see what they have in terms of D men at their development camps. I like how Buffalo is sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Enabler Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Connolly-Roy-Gaustad-Mair IIRC :wub: :wub: :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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