frissonic Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 holy ######. i knew i shouldn't have gone to bed when i did. whoo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Now give Kotalik to Florida for a 7th round pick. His salary might not be high enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Regier says he will not buy out final year of Ales Kotalik's deal. "We expect him to compete for a job." -Spector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 The Calgary board is fun to read right now. http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=106509&page=158 agreed "is butler that great of a prospect" no. no, not at all. those poor fools got shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know anything at all about Regehr, is he "ok," "good," or "Really good"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know anything at all about Regehr, is he "ok," "good," or "Really good"? One of the best at what he does. which is shut down the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james duncan Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 My guess is the Flames got caught asleep at the wheel--trying to make salary cap room to land Smyth only to have him picked off while Regehr "absorbed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 In other words, he's being judged based on performance. This is the best trade he's made since 2003 (Drury). Most of his trades over the past 8 years have been pretty lousy. This trade, though, is outstanding. I would have been happy just trading Butler and Byron for a 2nd round pick as neither seems to have much of a future in Buffalo. Getting Regehr is awesome (adds a good player and leadership) and I'll take Kotalik and just hope for the best. No, either you have faith in the guy or you don't. You either think he is a poor, average, good, or excellent GM. No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. But the general opinion of him has been that he is incompetent. It's that opinion I'm addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know anything at all about Regehr, is he "ok," "good," or "Really good"? Think Tim Horton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=106586&page=1 lol I wish this trade was with a Northeast team, as I don't have the animosity with Flames fans to truly relish in their disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 My guess is the Flames got caught asleep at the wheel--trying to make salary cap room to land Smyth only to have him picked off while Regehr "absorbed". Calgary had to get younger. They have zero in their system coming up so that is why they made this move. Smyth is too old and makes too much. Calgary made a good move by getting two young players. I had a mini heart attack when one report had Ennis going the other way. Thank goodness that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james duncan Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 No, either you have faith in the guy or you don't. You either think he is a poor, average, good, or excellent GM. No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. But the general opinion of him has been that he is incompetent. It's that opinion I'm addressing. Which one of the last three trade deadline deals have you liked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samothyev Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 No, either you have faith in the guy or you don't. You either think he is a poor, average, good, or excellent GM. No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. But the general opinion of him has been that he is incompetent. It's that opinion I'm addressing. Incompetent? More like shackled... He was never allowed to do what he is allowed to do now. I think this is a great deal, more a robbery than anything. Even with getting Ales back. Too high a price tag for a special teamer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james duncan Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Calgary had to get younger. They have zero in their system coming up so that is why they made this move. Smyth is too old and makes too much. Calgary made a good move by getting two young players. I had a mini heart attack when one report had Ennis going the other way. Thank goodness that didn't happen. I don't think Ennis is a given to be on the Sabres 2011/2012 squad. More moves coming. I love the kid though. As for Calgary, I think Butler starts for them this year but wonder if Byron will ever be a third liner anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 No, either you have faith in the guy or you don't. You either think he is a poor, average, good, or excellent GM. No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. But the general opinion of him has been that he is incompetent. It's that opinion I'm addressing. You don't have to rely on faith. Regier has been the Sabres' GM for about 1/3 of their existence. He has a track record. You can judge him based on his performance. This is a great trade but it's also his first great trade in 8 years. I *hope* that's because of Quinn/Golisano, but I'm not sure and we'll find out based on what he does moving forward from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Which one of the last three trade deadline deals have you liked? Boyes played a big part in them getting into the playoffs. He sputtered after moving to center and clearly disappointed in the playoffs, but he did as well as most, if not all other players moved at this deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Which one of the last three trade deadline deals have you liked? I repeat: No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know anything at all about Regehr, is he "ok," "good," or "Really good"? According to the reaction around here, more like "God Like", and according to the Calgary site, "Much better then Byron and Butler and getting cap space for getting rid of Kotalik" But lets all sit back and wait before we start calling Darcy a "genius" again. Its only one move. Regehr is good, but he has played 11 seasons in the NHL and plays a very physical game and blocks shots. Who knows how long he can have left playing very physical. This was definitly a good move, but lets be realistic, its not like Regier just picked up Stamkos and St. Louis for Connolly's rights and Hecht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Boyes played a big part in them getting into the playoffs. He sputtered after moving to center and clearly disappointed in the playoffs, but he did as well as most, if not all other players moved at this deadline. Boyes had some good moments when he was playing with Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Think Tim Horton. He makes Canada's favorite coffee? No wonder fans and teammates loved this guy. Atleast he will be the lockerroom favorite around here. Maybe it was part of Pegulia's lockerroom upgrade to go with the carpet? They now have new carpeting and a coffee maker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Boyes played a big part in them getting into the playoffs. He sputtered after moving to center and clearly disappointed in the playoffs, but he did as well as most, if not all other players moved at this deadline. He had four points (all assists) in our last 7 regular season games, and three of those came in Columbus the day after we clinched against Philly. He did have 14 points in the last 21 games (March and April) though, so he was definitely a step up from our previous trade deadline deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james duncan Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Boyes played a big part in them getting into the playoffs. He sputtered after moving to center and clearly disappointed in the playoffs, but he did as well as most, if not all other players moved at this deadline. I had high hopes for Boyes...until he turned out to be just like 90% of the current roster. I hope he turns it around once he's back on a wing regularly but right now, he looks like a 4M anchor and takes us out of the second round today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Sports Man Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Now I know as a Sabres fan I should never say something like this but we're still very much alive in the Richards race. The cap hit for Regehr does very little now that the cap is higher. I hope not. I'd rather have a guy that's not going to be THAT over priced. Take a run at someone through trade that we can seduce to love the city so we don't have to overpay that much. Regier says he will not buy out final year of Ales Kotalik's deal. "We expect him to compete for a job." -Spector Like I said, I'd love to see him show some cojones and show up at camp a la Stafford and Roy this last year and earn a spot. It doesn't mean he doesn't end up in Rochester at the end of the day (and like I said, buying him out is silly when you have Rochester there) As for fleecing, as it's been said by others, I liked the deal when we were losing the pick. I love it now that we're getting a pick. And, for the record, Butler was a 4th Round pick and Byron was a 6th. I know we've gotten some great late round picks that matured into guys like Miller and the Panthers' Original Soupy Campbell (I cringed when the Bruins GM called their Campbell 'Soupy'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I repeat: No one makes impeccable trades day in and day out because no one can tell the future. This has never been the bar people set for an NHL GM. No one has ever asked Regier to make "impeccable trades day in and day out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 He makes Canada's favorite coffee? No wonder fans and teammates loved this guy. Atleast he will be the lockerroom favorite around here. Maybe it was part of Pegulia's lockerroom upgrade to go with the carpet? They now have new carpeting and a coffee maker! ha ha Horton was the consummate defenseman. If you've never seen him play, you missed an artist. He played for many years in Toronto before Imlach brought him here. He would never attend training camp (which he hated) but showed up ready to play game one. Tragic that he died so suddenly on the Queen E. And I'm sure you know that his number (2) is retired by the club. If Regehr plays nearly as well, we will all be happy campers. I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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