tom webster

The genius trumped him. He wasn't talking about that possession. He posted after the time out with 2:14 left

Rex Ryan second interview tonite per Shefter

Story goes that Payton only kept Ryan because he didn't want to be seen as guy who can't hire a DC. He'd drive him to the airport if Rob wanted to join his brother

Which is one of the levels I was talking about. As long as Rex doesn't bring Rob......

Ryan has apparently aligned himself with Trestman. Wouldn't mind a Ryan, Trestman, Schwartz team although I doubt it happens on a couple levels. I would interview Trestman just to get his thoughts on Cutler.

This time wasn't snark. You said you hated responding to rumor garbage and I was saying I hate responding to what you already hated responding to.

I hate responding to your response but that was supposedly what TM was asking, not what they were offering. I think Detroit would do Tatar but not the other two at this point. I would want nothing to do with Tatar. He's just Ennis on a good team. The other two would be no brainers but Detroit's only going there if they think Myers is a top pairing guy that would put them over the top and I don't think they are there yet. Who knows what happens around the deadline when teams start thinking they are closer then they are.

Shanahan and other offensive coaches were said to be upset with interference from top personnel guys. In fact, it was reported that he was sent a text message during games regarding play calling. On a side note, Pettine is getting a reputation for leaking stuff to the press that serves his agenda.

That is probably correct but there has to be a part of him that wants the chance to beat the Jets twice a year.

Sorry, just realized that we were only picking goalies and dmen

Butch Deadmarsh And of course Tom Webster although he technically never played for them

I agree with most of this except for the fact that the Pegulas are in the room. If it happened once, it would not happen again. Of that, I am certain.

Actually no. It's interviewing 101. You don't blame anyone and you don't want your candidates to blame anyone. I can see him saying that he still feels their is untapped potential and asking them how they would have handled the situation and how they will handle it, but without establishing blame.

I am 100% certain that Whaley, no matter what he believes, would ever lay blame, especially to prospective coaches, and especially while sitting in a room with the Pegulas. You may not like these people working for your favorite football team, you may not even like them as people, but you have to acknowledge that they are not stupid people. No one that has reached their level of success would do what's being reported.

Let someone go on record before you pass judgement. Everyone has an agenda. This is the worst part of the internet. All this gossip is reported so often that in six months people will be quoting it as fact.

I have to say, you may be a pain in the ass sometimes but you are definitely one of this boards assets.

I don't remember the friend part of the story but like you I have no desire to spend too much time on this.

Back in the 80's, sophomores didn't play varsity. 50 kids tried out for 30 spots, 15 varsity, 15 jv. The team had no one over 6'3" so a 5'10" sophomore(MJ) was placed on JV in lieu of a 6'1" junior. You can call it what you want but it definitely wasn't what Jordan likes to portray it as.

I respect your opinion but you can't blaim Brandon for what went wrong without giving him credit for his successes. This team had trouble selling tickets during their Super Bowl years and his regionalization success is a large part of what made this franchise financially viable. The parachute clause was a by product of the uncertainty of the future and while you might not believe it, Marrone had options and a sharp attorney and nobody other then those three what was bargained away in return for the opt out clause. Whaley, I just don't get how he is held responsible for anything that happened more then two years ago. We will have to agree to disagree but at least we both are on the same page now.

That high school cut myth continues to live on

I agree with the optimism but don't understand you still wanting Whaley and Brandon gone. Whaley has been running the show and is largely responsible for the upward trend of the football operations and Brandon's work has at the very least resulted in surprised responses from people who saw the numbers during the sale process.

I have said it before and I will say it again, even with the injuries, Myers is an excellent 2nd pairing defenseman and his contract will slit him there in years to come. So, if you get offered top line talent, you move him. If you get offered borderline top 6 forward top 4 dman, you pass. There is no urgency. No cap concerns. No reason to take anything less at this time.

I know this may be the minority opinion but you don't have to know anything about football to hire a great football coach. You are hiring a senior VP/ management person. I don't want TP, KP or RB making personnel or game day decisions but I have no problem with them being involved in the hiring process. The key is after they hire them, let them and the rest of the football department do their job. Insist on being kept in the loop and apprised of what is going on but let them do what they were hired to do.

Hard to believe but I think we both want the same guy although Shanahan/ Cutler appeals to me as well

Out of all the coordinatos, I like Bevell as well. I'm curious as to why you would be against Shanahan.