tom webster

I'm not not saying that coaching doesn't matter but I am against saying that he's no good and just listing who played for him. Maybe he does suck but I need more info.

So Lee couldn't make Fitz, Henne or Smith to play like Andrew Luck, what s bum, I think Schwartz stays, Ryan and the Pegulas can be pretty persuasive. Besides, his best chance of a head job is continuing the success he already has had here.

Exactly, thanks

In today's possession stat era I think he would have fared well. He was very good along the boards. I remember him as a more talented Matt Ellis. I am getting old. Thinking of someone else. You are right, Ink.

The analytics people will explode if a year after trading an extra number 1 for a WR they use a premium pick on a RB. On top of that, this year is supposed to be to RB's what last yewar was to WR.

With Roman coming, add Gore Crabtree Vernon Davis and Tank's favorite Mike Iupati as free agents or soon to be free agents in play and maybe Kapernick.

He is also reporting that they want Roman as OC

And Ryan it is. I, for one, am excited. Trestmanan OC? Thurman DC Revis and Gilmore cornerbacks? Sanchez QB?

The genius trumped him. He wasn't talking about that possession. He posted after the time out with 2:14 left

Rex Ryan second interview tonite per Shefter

Story goes that Payton only kept Ryan because he didn't want to be seen as guy who can't hire a DC. He'd drive him to the airport if Rob wanted to join his brother

Which is one of the levels I was talking about. As long as Rex doesn't bring Rob......

Ryan has apparently aligned himself with Trestman. Wouldn't mind a Ryan, Trestman, Schwartz team although I doubt it happens on a couple levels. I would interview Trestman just to get his thoughts on Cutler.

This time wasn't snark. You said you hated responding to rumor garbage and I was saying I hate responding to what you already hated responding to.

I hate responding to your response but that was supposedly what TM was asking, not what they were offering. I think Detroit would do Tatar but not the other two at this point. I would want nothing to do with Tatar. He's just Ennis on a good team. The other two would be no brainers but Detroit's only going there if they think Myers is a top pairing guy that would put them over the top and I don't think they are there yet. Who knows what happens around the deadline when teams start thinking they are closer then they are.

Shanahan and other offensive coaches were said to be upset with interference from top personnel guys. In fact, it was reported that he was sent a text message during games regarding play calling. On a side note, Pettine is getting a reputation for leaking stuff to the press that serves his agenda.

That is probably correct but there has to be a part of him that wants the chance to beat the Jets twice a year.

Sorry, just realized that we were only picking goalies and dmen

Butch Deadmarsh And of course Tom Webster although he technically never played for them

I agree with most of this except for the fact that the Pegulas are in the room. If it happened once, it would not happen again. Of that, I am certain.

Actually no. It's interviewing 101. You don't blame anyone and you don't want your candidates to blame anyone. I can see him saying that he still feels their is untapped potential and asking them how they would have handled the situation and how they will handle it, but without establishing blame.

I am 100% certain that Whaley, no matter what he believes, would ever lay blame, especially to prospective coaches, and especially while sitting in a room with the Pegulas. You may not like these people working for your favorite football team, you may not even like them as people, but you have to acknowledge that they are not stupid people. No one that has reached their level of success would do what's being reported.

Let someone go on record before you pass judgement. Everyone has an agenda. This is the worst part of the internet. All this gossip is reported so often that in six months people will be quoting it as fact.

I have to say, you may be a pain in the ass sometimes but you are definitely one of this boards assets.

I don't remember the friend part of the story but like you I have no desire to spend too much time on this.