Sabres recall UPL from Rochester

[Forecheck]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Crazy.  Why not leave him down there for the next week and give Ellis another game?  

I wanted to see Lyon on Friday, and Ellis on Saturday.   

Leave UPL down and get him really ready.  Unless they have a trade partner lined up and they want to see UPL in NHL action? 

WTF? 

Since when does this organization do ANYTHING right?

2 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

The Sabres believe UPL is their #1 goaltender and are behaving accordingly.  

Sadly yes 

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

KA is up to something, because i know they are not parting ways with Lyon or Ellis anytime soon.

You’re giving him WAYYYY too much credit. 

[LGR4GM]

 

 

[Eleven]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

WTF is a Mermis?  It sounds like an infection or something.

[Porous Five Hole]

20 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Joseph Woll…I didn’t know you could use LTIR (and receive cap space relief) when a player takes a leave of absence. 

[SABRES 0311]

That was a helluva conditioning stint.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

KA is up to something, because i know they are not parting ways with Lyon or Ellis anytime soon.

Showing a trade partner UPL is healed?

[DarthEbriate]

3 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

The Sabres believe UPL is their #1 goaltender and are behaving accordingly.  

This is the way.

Wait a start or two to ensure he doesn't reaggravate the injury (I'd rather they did that in Rochester -- at least see him recover and play again as part of the conditioning). Then, waive Ellis back to STL before the 30 days expires and say, "Thank you, we've got Georgiev".

3 hours ago, msw2112 said:

If UPL regains his 2024 form, it's a good problem to have.  Lyon has been great so far and Ellis looked very good in his single appearance.  While managing 3 is not great, I'd rather the team be managing 3 good players than having to debate the likes of Carter Hutton, Houser, etc. (no disrespect to Houser intended, who was a good story).  Not sure if I want to throw Comrie onto that list, as he's a good fit for Winnipeg as a backup, but he was pretty bad in Buffalo.

But his 2024 form was for 20 games. Yes, 20 very good games, but the rest of that season he was just average. The rest of his career he has been below average.

3 hours ago, Pimlach said:

I'll say.  With the back to back Toronto games he should use Lyon and Ellis.  Bringing up UPL means someone, possibly a forward, has to go.  

Can't risk sending Geertsen down.

19 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Showing a trade partner UPL is healed?

4 seasons of $4.75M for a goalie with one 20-game hot streak and otherwise below average numbers? GMs are not lining up for that trade. Maybe a couple late-round picks spaced out over 3 years?

Would Adams (or Ruff) in their swansong year, go with Lyon (maximum 44 GP in a season) and Ellis (1 GP)? Not likely. They're going with Luukkonen as their #1 (well, backup as long as Lyon is hot).

[JoeSchmoe]

No one is taking UPL at his salary, and there's no way the Sabres would retain the giant chunk of salary it would take to make him halfway marketable.

We're stuck with him.

[The Jokeman]

6 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

This is the way.

Wait a start or two to ensure he doesn't reaggravate the injury (I'd rather they did that in Rochester -- at least see him recover and play again as part of the conditioning). Then, waive Ellis back to STL before the 30 days expires and say, "Thank you, we've got Georgiev".

But his 2024 form was for 20 games. Yes, 20 very good games, but the rest of that season he was just average. The rest of his career he has been below average.

Can't risk sending Geertsen down.

4 seasons of $4.75M for a goalie with one 20-game hot streak and otherwise below average numbers? GMs are not lining up for that trade. Maybe a couple late-round picks spaced out over 3 years?

Would Adams (or Ruff) in their swansong year, go with Lyon (maximum 44 GP in a season) and Ellis (1 GP)? Not likely. They're going with Luukkonen as their #1 (well, backup as long as Lyon is hot).

At the same time they also have to see if Ellis worth a NHL roster spot long term. I move UPL as his long term future here to me looks bleak. 

[clink]

I HATE this

 

SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! 

 

Damn you, Adams!!!!

As my father would say, "Adams could ruin a wet dream!" 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Fire up more Tuch to Toronto rumors. Yet if I'm the Sabres I don't entertain it at all.

[Eleven]

3 hours ago, French Collection said:

Somewhere a village is missing an idiot.

All right, which one of you needs to return to your village?

[DarthEbriate]

18 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Fire up more Tuch to Toronto rumors. Yet if I'm the Sabres I don't entertain it at all.

Why trade him to Toronto? The Sabres are going to ruin their season this weekend.

[PerreaultForever]

28 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

No one is taking UPL at his salary, and there's no way the Sabres would retain the giant chunk of salary it would take to make him halfway marketable.

We're stuck with him.

There's also no real goalie market right now. Seattle has been trying to move Grubauer for over a year with no takers why would anyone take UPL?

[Jorcus]

14 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

There's also no real goalie market right now. Seattle has been trying to move Grubauer for over a year with no takers why would anyone take UPL?

Well Grubauer is in his 30's, makes 5.9 M and has been sub .900 in save percentage 4 years in a row. Who would you choose between the two?

[kas23]

4 hours ago, msw2112 said:

And if UPL does NOT regain his 2024 form, the team appears to have solid alternatives (although it's too soon to know much about Ellis and even Lyon's sample size is small).

And let’s not forget his “2024 form” only lasted for about 3 months. 
 

January GAA 0.944

February GAA 0.926

March GAA 0.898

April GAA (6 games) 0.914

as a bonus, I’ll throw in December GAA, 0.866

Then, 24-25 would see him revert to the mean. 

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I, of course, have no evidence but if the stories about UPL being whiny to KA on the past are true, and that KA had visits with UPL in the past to address the whining, then I would suspect UPL whined some more after clearly reading the situation, so that KA would return UPL to the line up post haste.

Of course, it could also be a devious maneuver to potentially cause the injury to become worse after rushing UPL's return from the conditioning assignment. 

These are the only circumstances that make sense other than KA is an utter moron. 

[Doohickie]

5 hours ago, zow2 said:

KA is up to something, because i know they are not parting ways with Lyon or Ellis anytime soon.

Maybe it's what I suggested:  They want to prove UPL is NHL ready to set up a trade.

5 hours ago, ponokasabre said:

This is vague but I am intrigued, are you thinking they are playing UPL one of the games to show an acquiring team he is good to go?

And how would you know they arent parting with Lyon or Ellis soon? I mean that is the smart thing to do, 

I think that might be exactly what he's doing, but I don't know if it's UPL, Lyon or Ellis that's on the trade block.

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Jorcus said:

Well Grubauer is in his 30's, makes 5.9 M and has been sub .900 in save percentage 4 years in a row. Who would you choose between the two?

I would take Ellis off waivers.

I wouldn't want either.

I would add Korpisalo couldn't be moved either. There's no goalie market. 

[Brawndo]

Friedman in His 32 Thoughts column, feels they will keep all three and they do not want to lose Ellis on waivers