Josh Norris has an Upper Body Injury; Zach Benson is hospitalized

[Pimlach]

Just now, Dryballs said:

I feel bad for Norris. He was so enthused to have had a full offseason to workout rather than rehab. Season feels like another train wreck already.. Unless  a miracle trade happens, we may be looking at Helenius or Whalberg sooner than would be ideal. But what  does this organization have to lose. That could also hold true for Levi depending on future circumstances. 

I feel bad for Norris too.  He isn't doing this on purpose and he has to be extremely frustrated. 

Do not expect a miracle trade either.  Teams do not give up 1C/2C centers easily.  I expect Terry will say the solution is in the room.  

Helenius will be called up at some point.  They probably want to give him a few more games in the AHL  first.  

[eman]

21 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Only Tage and Tuch are legit Top 6 players.  Sorry Kevyn but you blew it again.  

I think you will see Helenius up by December.  

I think we'll see this club far removed from a playoff berth by December.

[Gatorman0519]

At least Granato's teams could score goals and lose 6-5. It was not boring to watch. Get ready to be bored to death with regular 3-1 losses. I am not looking for a playoff team anymore, just entertainment at this point until the overdue regime change. 

[JustOutsideChicago]

There is no reason why Adams should not be fired within the hour.

 

39 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I agree that Adams should be fired.  He should have been fired when it was clear the Sabres would not be a playoff team a year ago.

I have zero enthusiasm for a Kekalainen takeover.  He was at best a mediocre GM with a preference for old-school coaches whose era is over (Torts, Babcock). We have such a coach now, and it isn't going well. 

I would take Karmanos over Kekalainen, not because I have any degree of certainty that Karmanos would be good, but because I'm near certain that Kekalainen is not a long-term solution.

 

Right. Should be a total house cleaning.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by JustOutsideChicago

[SabresBillsFan]

Tanking for McKenna, sad thing is San Jose is ahead of their rebuild over the Sabres. Trading for Norris and taking on a higher contract for a player that can’t stay healthy is just pure stupidity.

Not sold on giving Kekalainen a chance either at GM. His record with Columbus isn’t all that good either.

Edited 3 hours ago by SabresBillsFan

[Second Line Center]

 

[Thorny]

“No concern” 

Dear lord man this team deserves no fans at all 

Comedy sketch 

[That Aud Smell]

4 minutes ago, Thorny said:

“No concern” 

Dear lord man this team deserves no fans at all 

Comedy sketch 

huh?

[Second Line Center]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

“No concern” 

Dear lord man this team deserves no fans at all 

Comedy sketch 

 

Who cares what the doctors say - when it comes to his CURRENT health yes sure they had no concerns with his shoulder.  
 

What the GM has to do which the doctor cannot is say “the greatest predictor of injury is prior injury.  Yea sorry Ottawa I’m going to look somewhere else.”

 

That clip screams of a GM looking for or wanting to find justification/confirmation that he’s making the right move - a real GM just doesn’t sound like that.  I want my GM to say “thanks for the medicals but I know how this goes with players like Norris and the asset I’m trading MUST get me a sure return.”

[Thorny]

1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said:

huh?

Just paraphrasing Adams in the video 

Just now, Second Line Center said:

 

Who cares what the doctors say - when it comes to his CURRENT health yes sure they had no concerns with his shoulder.  
 

What the GM has to do which the doctor cannot is say “the greatest predictor of injury is prior injury.  Yea sorry Ottawa I’m going to look somewhere else.”

 

That clip screams of a GM looking for or wanting to find justification/confirmation that he’s making the right move - a real GM just doesn’t sound like that.  I want my GM to say “thanks for the medicals but I know how this goes with players like Norris and the asset I’m trading MUST get me a sure return.”

What a cluster f*ck

[Kristian]

Inhate Kevyn Adams, and I hate Terry Pegula.

Cause they made me hate the Sabres….

[Dryballs]

I’m sure many GM’s would have done it the same way but yeah, it’s weird that they release that video. Is KA that desperate to try and keep the fan base off his ass? … probably… Regardless, pathetic mess of an organization. 

[eman]

46 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Tanking for McKenna, sad thing is San Jose is ahead of their rebuild over the Sabres. Trading for Norris and taking on a higher contract for a player that can’t stay healthy is just pure stupidity.

Not sold on giving Kekalainen a chance either at GM. His record with Columbus isn’t all that good either.

Even if they did try and tank for McKenna, you know the Sabres, no guarantees he falls into their lap! McDavid II.

[clink]

Tonedef owner hires tonedef GM who makes TONEDEF moves which "improve" the franchise

 

The Buffalo Sabers abstract 😵‍💫

[Rip Titwide]

20 minutes ago, Second Line Center said:

 

Who cares what the doctors say - when it comes to his CURRENT health yes sure they had no concerns with his shoulder.  
 

What the GM has to do which the doctor cannot is say “the greatest predictor of injury is prior injury.  Yea sorry Ottawa I’m going to look somewhere else.”

 

That clip screams of a GM looking for or wanting to find justification/confirmation that he’s making the right move - a real GM just doesn’t sound like that.  I want my GM to say “thanks for the medicals but I know how this goes with players like Norris and the asset I’m trading MUST get me a sure return.”

I think Les should probably be relieved of his duties as well

[clink]

4 hours ago, Rasmus_ said:

He needs a bubble and padded walls. in the same room.

The bubble would likely be applied too tight and he'd suffer from compartment syndrome 😃 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Brawndo said:

There is some speculation that he might be done for the year, which I hope is incorrect 

 

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Elliot Friedman. 

Norris will miss significant time. 

These are not the same statement.

That said, I can't even see what Norris did to hurt himself. At first I thought he pulled his groin because his stance for the faceoff was too wide. 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Gatorman0519 said:

At least Granato's teams could score goals and lose 6-5.

FFS it was one game. You know the Rangers were shut out in their first game too. No one said they would never score another goal.

1 hour ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Tanking for McKenna, sad thing is San Jose is ahead of their rebuild over the Sabres. Trading for Norris and taking on a higher contract for a player that can’t stay healthy is just pure stupidity.

Not sold on giving Kekalainen a chance either at GM. His record with Columbus isn’t all that good either.

We are not tanking after losing game 1 out of 82. 

[Dryballs]

Tank had as much to do with the downward spiral as did Lucic owning their lunch money. 

[SabresBillsFan]

36 minutes ago, eman said:

Even if they did try and tank for McKenna, you know the Sabres, no guarantees he falls into their lap! McDavid II.

Yeah, I know. They would ***** it up anyway. 

[HILLsabre]

On 10/9/2025 at 7:29 PM, GASabresIUFAN said:

I’m going to quibble with the post.  Thompson can play center, and I actually think Krebs can be an effective 3rd line center. Kozak is also a solid choice as a 4th line center.   Center isn’t our issue.  Lack of playmakers, goaltenders and defensive D remain our issues and that didn’t really change this off-season.

Amen brother!! Thompson can play center on my playoff team any day....on the second line. I've said for several years now,  the  Buffalo Sabres DO NOT have a legit first line. They are great line 2 and 3 line team with LOTS of depth, but don't have ANY consistent line 1 play. Check all other Eastern conferences playoff teams....look at their top lines. 

[Taro T]

2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

I agree that Adams should be fired.  He should have been fired when it was clear the Sabres would not be a playoff team a year ago.

I have zero enthusiasm for a Kekalainen takeover.  He was at best a mediocre GM with a preference for old-school coaches whose era is over (Torts, Babcock). We have such a coach now, and it isn't going well. 

I would take Karmanos over Kekalainen, not because I have any degree of certainty that Karmanos would be good, but because I'm near certain that Kekalainen is not a long-term solution.

 

Not thrilled with the idea of Kekalainen either (pretty sure a ton of his success was on Zito); but there is no way he's as bad as Adams.  Make him the interim GM and if somebody actually good comes available in the offseason upgrade yet again.  If not, at least there is an upgrade over what's currently going on.

And personally would be very pleased with them giving Karmanos a shot at running the show.  But as others have said, just don't see that happening for whatever reason.

[Brawndo]

Here is the face off that Norris suffered his shoulder injury on

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/senators-norris-forced-leave-game-awkward-collision-coyotes-boyd-face-off/

[PerreaultForever]

The statements and reporting on this injury already make me wonder. It's "upper body". It's "not related to his previous injury" . It might be. It's the other shoulder. It's soon going to be lower body because Adams is used to having his head up his a$$.

[HILLsabre]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

I feel bad for Norris too.  He isn't doing this on purpose and he has to be extremely frustrated. 

Do not expect a miracle trade either.  Teams do not give up 1C/2C centers easily.  I expect Terry will say the solution is in the room.  

Helenius will be called up at some point.  They probably want to give him a few more games in the AHL  first.  

Too bad "the room" is the hospital operating room Terry! 😷