Tuch extension coming soon?

[Thorny]

20 hours ago, tom webster said:

The cap will be $113.5M in two years and probably continue to skyrocket. $9M is the equivalent to $6.7M under last years cap. The contract will be fine when you calculate % of cap.

Ya, the issue is not winning when teams were way more cap strapped and we had the opportunity to take advantage of a great player at 4.5 mil

Missed the boat to be sure. Alas 

20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You seem to think taking a dump on everything the Sabres do is "holding them accountable." Not everything they do is bad. Sometimes it's good. It's not a crime to acknowledge that. You aren't going to just encourage bad behavior by giving them credit for something.

Link? 

20 hours ago, oddoublee said:

If tuch was a forward that lived and died by his speed and stick handling - yes, I would struggle with that contract. 

Players of his style can play into their mid 30s.

Can't be afraid to sign guys in their late 20s and early 30s. 

Ya like Matt Moulson

Edited 6 hours ago by Thorny

[Thorny]

9 hours ago, Weave said:

Every team ends up with contracts like this during the 2nd half of a players career.  It is the natural price that needs to be paid to have very good veterans on your team.  Avoiding these deals means you are committing your top veterans to cap out at about Zucker level.

Right - it’s not that the signing will be bad - we need to and will sign him and I will call it the right deal - it’s just the egregious waste of the asset until now. The compare/contrast looks quite ugly 

it’s difficult to imagine them maximizing a lesser deal when they couldn’t take advantage of one that was much more advantageous 

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[Thorny]

8 hours ago, JohnC said:

When did I say that everything the Sabres did is bad? You are the one creating a false narrative (as it applies to me) to justify your fawning attitude towards a franchise that hasn't made the playoffs in a generation. Certainly, not all criticisms are merited. But that isn't to say that many aren't. 

They aren’t all merited, but they are all imminently understandable 

3 hours ago, sabremike said:

The amount of people who simply can't process the fact that the league is in a paradigm shift where cap space is going to be nowhere near as important is just stunning.

That’s the rub. We had SUCH an opportunity to weaponize our cap space. We effed up - that opportunity is long gone. We didn’t build when it was easier, now Adams will have to do so under a much higher degree difficulty

still playing for the same prize, here, but Adams has added 2 extra twirls to his high dive 

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[sabremike]

11 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Ya, the issue is not winning when teams were way more cap strapped and we had the opportunity to take advantage of a great player at 4.5 mil

Missed the boat to be sure. Alas 

Link? 

Ya like Matt Moulson

You mean the guy whose career is an irrefutable argument that John Tavares should be a first ballot Hall Of Famer??????? Seriously, Pajama Boy made that guy a millionaire.

[Thorny]

7 minutes ago, sabremike said:

You mean the guy whose career is an irrefutable argument that John Tavares should be a first ballot Hall Of Famer??????? Seriously, Pajama Boy made that guy a millionaire.

[Jorcus]

6 hours ago, EM88 said:

I do not see any current contracts on the Sabres that are likely to go bad due to players aging out. I think the deal Tage Thompson signed ends when he is 31 years old.  That is the longest/latest/oldest anyone else is committed to right now on a deal that is any longer than 2 years.

I am not advocating for an $80 million dollar, 8 year deal. But If you have to give ONE deal that might be an overpay at the end of it to Tuch right now, you do that so you get the 'good' next 2-4 years out of him.

 

 

I think $80 million by 8 years is the minimum we could sign him for. Look at Sam Bennet of Florida. He is no better than Tuch that I can see. Not only did he get 8x8 he got 56 Million of it in a signing bonus with Florida Taxes. That contract will not be allowed in the new CBA. They limit the bonus to 60% of the contract. Then you look at Marchand's contract and wonder how that is going end? His contract is also front loaded. 5.25x6 at 37 years old. It's a mad world.   

[LabattBlue]

11 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

 

I think $80 million by 8 years is the minimum we could sign him for. 

Crazy talk.  

[EM88]

42 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

 

. They limit the bonus to 60% of the contract. Then you look at Marchand's contract and wonder how that is going end? His contract is also front loaded. 5.25x6 at 37 years old. It's a mad world.   

Does the 35+ rule for buyouts still apply?

If I remember correctly, the later years of a contract that a player signs when he is 35 or later can be bought out for a fraction of what most other deals would cost.