mjd1001 Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM (edited) Ok, there isn't much new on this forum in the last week or two, so I thought I'd try a poll. My cousin and me were discussing the teams we would least like to see win the cup. I think on this Forum Toronto, Boston, and Philly would lead the way, but maybe a poll would be fun to see what the split is. So, what team would you least like to see win the cup ever. (of course, Sabres not included in any results) I thought Boston and Toronto would be the top choices, Philly and the Rangers for some. I threw Florida in there because maybe people are getting sick of them (although we we more talking about long term, not just this year) I thought of adding Dallas or Montreal or Ottawa, but I don't see much hatred for them anymore. For me, I'm going with the Rangers. Yeah, there are times they play the Leafs and I want the Rangers to win, but for the most part, they are the most annoying fanbase when they are good in my eyes (worse than Toronto and MUCH worse than Boston.) Edited yesterday at 04:34 PM by mjd1001 Quote
Taro T Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago Had you asked this question prior to the stupid 14 years in the desert, would've had a different answer. Likely Filly, possibly Bah-stan, or even a very outside chance of the Aisles, Rags, or Texasses. But it was asked now, 14 years into an indeterminant journey into the desert and at this point in time, there can be only 1 answer, like the goalie in the Nike commercials used to say: die Leafs die. 1 1 1 Quote
Weave Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago I just can’t get that level of emotion anymore. I need a purple pill for hockey. 2 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago Montreal for me. Toronto is second but their failures make them more laughable than hated. They'd be first if they actually won something. I would have expected Boston to be first here. Quote
Hawerchuk Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago The hate for Montreal, Philly, Penguins and Bruins has been put on the back burner for a long time now. Sabres have no rival games anymore because they are so lousy. That said, the correct answer is Toronto. I never, ever want them to lift the Cup! 1 1 Quote
EM88 Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago I think the rest of the board will go with Toronto. For myself personally of all the fanbases the NY city fanbase gets the most intolerable when they win. New York Rangers. 1 Quote
French Collection Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago Always has been Toronto for me. Their delusional fanbase keeps growing because the media pumps out Leafs content on our national networks. John Tavares getting new laces is bigger news than someone in Calgary getting surgery, Quote
7+6=13 Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago From childhood - Boston Current - Toronto Really dislike - Vegas Quote
OverPowerYou Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago Besides Ottawa (obvious), I’d say New Jersey. They ruined the nhl for a long time Quote
Pimlach Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 17 hours ago, Weave said: I just can’t get that level of emotion anymore. I need a purple pill for hockey. Edited 5 hours ago by Pimlach Quote
DarthEbriate Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago Short-term: It's always whatever team the Sabres are playing, or whichever team's demise will benefit the Sabres the most. Unfortunately, since about 2013, my most hated team whose demise has most "benefitted" the Sabres has been the Sabres. Long-term: Rangers. Quote
EM88 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Toronto and New York are at the top of the list for me. It has little to do with the players of course, mostly due to the fanbases. My perception has those 2 fanbases being slightly different, yet still annoying. Toronto Fans: When they win, it simply because, of course, they are the better team. A bad call against the other team? No big deal, Toronto was going to win anyway. When they lose, it is always some external factor, mostly the fans or the league out to get them because everyone is jealous of Toronto and the Leafs. In many Leaf fans eyes, the Leafs have yet to lose a game in the last 5 years that wasn't the fault of the refs or the league. New York fans: When the Rangers lose, the fans hate their own team, they turn on the team faster than almost any fanbase. But when the Rangers win, a large portion of the fanbases seems to think that they, the fans, are the reason why. New York fans seem take personal credit for the success of their teams more than anyone else. Both of the above behaviors, while other fanbases have them to a certain extent, are notable for Toronto and New York fans, and they are annoying. Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago For the people who don't like the Rangers, I wonder if it's because they are in closer proximity to NYC. Here in Southern Ontario, the Rangers are a non-factor media wise, so I don't have any fuel to hate them. Quote
Jorcus Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I think it's Dallas for me. I watch games where people in the front rows are standing up. People walking up and down the stairs during the game (Try doing that in New York). Posers behind the bench so they can get on TV. Vegas has some of that too but Dallas is old enough to know better. Quote
mjd1001 Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: For the people who don't like the Rangers, I wonder if it's because they are in closer proximity to NYC. Here in Southern Ontario, the Rangers are a non-factor media wise, so I don't have any fuel to hate them. I think its a general "new york" thing. Some local broadcasts that are broadcast around the nation saying things like "from the greatest city in the world" or "The world's most famous arena (you may or may not agree with those things...but they like to shove it down everyone's throat). My personal experience is fans of NY teams are the most likely to go to someone else's arena in larger numbers and being arrogant. My wife and her entire family are form NY city. She grew up in Queens the first 30 years of her life, and worked in Manhatten. After moving away and having a couple years to adjust, she kinda agrees with that. She says you don't even think of it growing up, but you are told that you live in the best city in the world, everyone wants to be like you but they are just jealous...and then when you meet people from other areas you can just treat them as a 'lower class' without even thinking about it...because the news in NY city, the papers, the sports teams, the culture...just instill that into your head over and over and over. Now this is my personal anectodatal experience, others may disagree...but living for a few years in Boston and going to Fenway, and also being in Yankee stadium a few times, this is what I see. Go to Fenway wearing another team's jersey, and the locals around you will make a quick comment joke with you for a few seconds..but then the rest of the game they will talk to you, they want to talk about the Sox AND your team and baseball in general. Now in New York, go to Yankee games with another teams jersey on, and its more likely you will be sworn at (doesn't matter if little kids are around), EVERY SINGLE RUN the yankees score someone will get in your face about it, and you are likely to have a beer (or other beverage) thrown at you or spilled on you if you engage back with those fans in any single way. There are 'good' fans in NY, and 'bad' fans in Boston for sure, but the numbers of the bad ones are weighted heavily toward the NY side of things. Others may have had different/better experiences, but in about 6-8 trips to Fenway over the years, and almost as many to the Bronx, that is what I have observed. Edited 1 hour ago by mjd1001 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Toronto, their fans and franchise as a whole just perturb me. Every Win = Greatest Team in Hockey Every Loss = Worst Team in Hockey or they are being cheated (Unlike most, they will insist on it far longer than most. Essentially they see every Leaf like Zach Benson when it comes to penalties) 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I think its a general "new york" thing. Some local broadcasts that are broadcast around the nation saying things like "from the greatest city in the world" or "The world's most famous arena (you may or may not agree with those things...but they like to shove it down everyone's throat). My personal experience is fans of NY teams are the most likely to go to someone else's arena in larger numbers and being arrogant. My wife and her entire family are form NY city. She grew up in Queens the first 30 years of her life, and worked in Manhatten. After moving away and having a couple years to adjust, she kinda agrees with that. She says you don't even think of it growing up, but you are told that you live in the best city in the world, everyone wants to be like you but they are just jealous...and then when you meet people from other areas you can just treat them as a 'lower class' without even thinking about it...because the news in NY city, the papers, the sports teams, the culture...just instill that into your head over and over and over. Gee... It sounds like your wife was grossly uninformed. Does she not know that Toronto is in fact the greatest city in the world? This is where the highest of the high class live... Like NYC, but as THEY'LL tell you- they're kinder and friendlier. 🙄 Quote
mjd1001 Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, JoeSchmoe said: Gee... It sounds like your wife was grossly uninformed. Does she not know that Toronto is in fact the greatest city in the world? This is where the highest of the high class live... Like NYC, but as THEY'LL tell you- they're kinder and friendlier. 🙄 That is why New York and Toronto are basically the same versios a city just in different countries. And people from NY city, they were it as a badge of honor that they have the 'right' to be rude to each other. Quote
EM88 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I think its a general "new york" thing. Some local broadcasts that are broadcast around the nation saying things like "from the greatest city in the world" or "The world's most famous arena (you may or may not agree with those things...but they like to shove it down everyone's throat). My personal experience is fans of NY teams are the most likely to go to someone else's arena in larger numbers and being arrogant. My wife and her entire family are form NY city. She grew up in Queens the first 30 years of her life, and worked in Manhatten. After moving away and having a couple years to adjust, she kinda agrees with that. She says you don't even think of it growing up, but you are told that you live in the best city in the world, everyone wants to be like you but they are just jealous...and then when you meet people from other areas you can just treat them as a 'lower class' without even thinking about it...because the news in NY city, the papers, the sports teams, the culture...just instill that into your head over and over and over. Now this is my personal anectodatal experience, others may disagree...but living for a few years in Boston and going to Fenway, and also being in Yankee stadium a few times, this is what I see. Go to Fenway wearing another team's jersey, and the locals around you will make a quick comment joke with you for a few seconds..but then the rest of the game they will talk to you, they want to talk about the Sox AND your team and baseball in general. Now in New York, go to Yankee games with another teams jersey on, and its more likely you will be sworn at (doesn't matter if little kids are around), EVERY SINGLE RUN the yankees score someone will get in your face about it, and you are likely to have a beer (or other beverage) thrown at you or spilled on you if you engage back with those fans in any single way. There are 'good' fans in NY, and 'bad' fans in Boston for sure, but the numbers of the bad ones are weighted heavily toward the NY side of things. Others may have had different/better experiences, but in about 6-8 trips to Fenway over the years, and almost as many to the Bronx, that is what I have observed. As far as fan bases go: Boston fans are harmless more 'show' than 'go'. As long you you do not bring up the Patriots cheating scandal or even hint in the slightest that Tom Brady is not the greatest football player in the history of the world by 10 miles. Stay away from that topic and you are fine with them. Philly fan can be rough around the edges. However, you are usually safe with them because they spend more time fighting each other to bother with other fanbases. Toronto fan I have found to be pretty good when it comes to the Raptors or Blue Jays. They are annoying with the Leafs but it is a step below a lot of other fanbases in terms or outright anger. With Leaf fan, it is more arrogance, or maybe even 'wanna-be' arrogance. New York fan is different breed of person. One gets the impression the sole reason many of them attend games is they are looking for an argument or fight. Quote
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