Sabres interested in Yegor Chinakhov?

[Dr. Who]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

First let me ask how bad do you want him! And if you add him, where does he play and who does he knock off the roster? 

Ideally you offer that Sabre plus a pick or a non-A level prospect. Does Chinakhov replace Krebs? Offer Krebs. But you are not getting anything for a low prospect and a 2nd.

If Chinakhov is basically a slightly lesser Quinn, the price that would make acquiring him worth it had better be no greater than a combination that comes out to a slightly lesser Quinn. Personally, if they're going to make a genuine swing for a player, I'd like to make a play for Mason McTavish. Most don't trust KA to make a smart big move (and I can't recall him ever implementing a significant trade that wasn't predicated on a good player demanding out). You can point to small prudential moves along the edges that have yet to result in a substantial difference in team success. That's the frustration, but it doesn't mean a lot of folks here just want the Sabres to take any old swing just to do something.

Edited 15 hours ago by Dr. Who

[Mr. MVP]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

If Chinakhov is basically a slightly lesser Quinn, the price that would make acquiring him worth it had better be no greater than a combination that comes out to a slightly lesser Quinn. Personally, if they're going to make a genuine swing for a player, I'd like to make a play for Mason McTavish. Most don't trust KA to make a smart big move (and I can't recall him ever implementing a significant trade that wasn't predicated on a good player demanding out). You can point to small prudential moves along the edges that have yet to result in a substantial difference in team success. That's the frustration, but it doesn't mean a lot of folks here just want the Sabres to take any old swing just to do something.

That’s the guy I want.  Future 1C.  

[Cityo'Rasmii]

he's small

[Broken Ankles]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Sometimes I feel like people just want a swing. 

 

[North Buffalo]

5 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

All 3 you mentioned are arguably better already

Chinakov had a whopping 15pts last year in 30 games and isn’t physical. So unless the plan is to trade Krebs for him it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense

Krebs or was thinking Rosen

[Indabuff]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Gotta give something to get something.

That's what I tell my wife.   Hasn't worked. 

[Indabuff]

21 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

We look for these on cruise room doors... and we actually find them. 

[dudacek]

I think the whole point of Chinakov would be to create depth and options.

Quinn/Zucker/Chinakov/kulich for offence

Benson/Doan/Greenway/McLeod for defence

Ideally you’d have 8 options to plug into 6 spots in your top 9

You mix and match around Norris, Tuch and Thompson based on health, chemistry, opponent and who is going well.

Krebs, Danforth and Malenstyn are your 4th line options.

Basically it’s about not repeating the Quinn Achilles mistake and starting the season with more good players than what you need.

If everyone is healthy, give the ice time to those who earn it. If they aren’t you’re covered.

Edited 14 hours ago by dudacek

[inkman]

42 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

Krebs or was thinking Rosen

Aka players we don’t care about 

[Broken Ankles]

50 minutes ago, Indabuff said:

We look for these on cruise room doors... and we actually find them. 

Have you knocked and stuck around to chat them up? 

[Pimlach]

5 hours ago, Eleven said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson_(TV_series)

It wasn't a very good show.

But “Soap” was pretty groundbreaking and Benson was a spin-off from that.  

[JP51]

I just dont know this kid... but in Jarmo I trust on this call... 

[GoPuckYourself]

So he's Josh Doan without the physicality? Why do we want this player and in no way shape or form is he a top 6 player correct? So where does he fit here?

[That Aud Smell]

2 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

So he's Josh Doan without the physicality? Why do we want this player and in no way shape or form is he a top 6 player correct? So where does he fit here?

I'd refer you to @dudacek's take immediately upthread. As is often the case, he's spot on.

[LGR4GM]

18 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'd refer you to @dudacek's take immediately upthread. As is often the case, he's spot on.

You can only roster 23 players though. 

11 hours ago, dudacek said:

I think the whole point of Chinakov would be to create depth and options.

Quinn/Zucker/Chinakov/kulich for offence

Benson/Doan/Greenway/McLeod for defence

Ideally you’d have 8 options to plug into 6 spots in your top 9

You mix and match around Norris, Tuch and Thompson based on health, chemistry, opponent and who is going well.

Krebs, Danforth and Malenstyn are your 4th line options.

Basically it’s about not repeating the Quinn Achilles mistake and starting the season with more good players than what you need.

If everyone is healthy, give the ice time to those who earn it. If they aren’t you’re covered.

This has 14 forwards and doesn't include Kozak. 

[DarthEbriate]

Varied thoughts:

Too many injuries. A different injury each season. One "good" year with 16 goals and a very solid 4:1 takeaway to giveaway ratio.

He has vocally asked to be traded from a non-contender. I can't see that happening in Buffalo because... you know... the strong culture here.

I guess if you could fuse him with Jordan Greenway you'd have quite the player. Yegordan Chinaway.

 

He's an RFA after this season so it is the absolute perfect Adams-style acquisition.

A third liner with one good season and a ton of missed time. Dakota Joshua got moved this week for a 4th. Chinakov is worth what, a 3rd? (meaning Adams would love to trade away a 2nd for him.)

Overall: Pass

[GoPuckYourself]

20 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'd refer you to @dudacek's take immediately upthread. As is often the case, he's spot on.

I saw it but he’s including him as an offensive option, he had 15 points in 30 games and who is he taking the place of? As I said where does he fit?

[That Aud Smell]

8 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Yegordan Chinaway.

6 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I saw it but he’s including him as an offensive option, he had 15 points in 30 games and who is he taking the place of? As I said where does he fit?

I thought it was responsive to your questions. Sorry if it isn't.

Also, I hadn't appreciated that dudacek was predicting the rostering of more forwards than the team can have (thx, @LGR4GM).

[Believer]

18 hours ago, shrader said:

Is the covid year in there at all?

Too many missed games.

Pass.

[inkman]

2 minutes ago, Believer said:

Too many missed games.

Pass.

Yes. We only want players who play 82 games a season, are 1st liners, love Buffalo and only cost a late round draft pick. 

[dudacek]

33 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

You can only roster 23 players though. 

This has 14 forwards and doesn't include Kozak. 

 

17 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I thought it was responsive to your questions. Sorry if it isn't.

Also, I hadn't appreciated that dudacek was predicting the rostering of more forwards than the team can have (thx, @LGR4GM).

It’s OK for the team to have 2 spare forwards and one spare defenceman, which is what would be the case under my post. It’s also rare for everyone to be healthy at the same time.

Kozak would be sent to Rochester. Doubt he gets claimed, wouldn’t worry too much if he was.

Chinakov is a very fast skater with a great shot who may or may not be a better scoring forward than Quinn or Kulich right now and may or may not be a better hockey player than about half the Sabres current forwards.

The point of picking him is he may blossom into the guy who replaces Peterka, or at least force someone else to work to earn that spot.

Edited 2 hours ago by dudacek

[Indabuff]

11 hours ago, Broken Ankles said:

Have you knocked and stuck around to chat them up? 

I flip the pineapples upright so they get no action.

[dudacek]

It seems like just last week this board was clamouring to trade Byram for a forward and screaming how are we going to replace Peterka’s scoring.

Did you think we were getting a special roster exemption for that guy?

Chinakov has 23 goals in his last 83 games, Peterka has 27 in his last 77.

Come on people, this isn’t rocket surgery.

[LGR4GM]

40 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It seems like just last week this board was clamouring to trade Byram for a forward and screaming how are we going to replace Peterka’s scoring.

Did you think we were getting a special roster exemption for that guy?

Chinakov has 23 goals in his last 83 games, Peterka has 27 in his last 77.

Come on people, this isn’t rocket surgery.

Doan has 12g in his last 62. That's 16g in 83 games. Is Chinakov better defensively than Doan? 

You can trade for him but who are you moving out?

[LGR4GM]

Also @dudacek I'm very much on record as saying we need a 17% goals against reduction more than anything else. We lost about 50ish goals but brought in around 40.